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    Zerg are naturally attracted to psionic emenations; it might have something to do with their subservient nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    That's only because she's only seen the WORST that humanity has to offer. Look Gradius, I don't think you're going to get it unless you personally experience something like this in your life. I live in an environment where EVERYTHING is "Do as I say, no questions asked." Or if I raise it, the answer is always "Because I said so." Been this way for me since probably before you even learned how to walk.

    It's not about being evil, it's just that once the Overmind and the Cerebrates were gone, Kerrigan felt there was no one left to control her anymore, and given the hell she went through LONG before taken by the swarm, there's grounds for that.
    There are plenty of evil villains with traumatic childhoods. Kerrigan is one of them.

    Until you go on a mass murder spree and kill a bunch of people, you can't really empathize with her actions, can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Zerg are naturally attracted to psionic emenations
    Yeah, but that was back when the Zerg was the Overmind then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    No, I didn't forget. The Zerg are only attracted to psychic emanations in Sc1 because they are the extended will of the Overmind, who was looking for psionic humans at the time. In BW, the presence of a new but albeit immature Overmind could explain why the Psi Emitters were still useable but were a lot weaker in effect (it needed to be close to feral Zerg in order to attract them). With the Overmind having no sway over Zerg there whatsoever in Sc2 (being actually physically dead for reals), there is no "motivation" for the Zerg to be still blindly attracted to psionics anymore.
    Given all the experiments Kerrigan did in infesting terrans for the years after the BW, I can easily see why they'd still be attracted to psionics. Prior to the creation of Broodmothers, she wanted an infested terran to be her consort, which did happen temporarily with Ethan Stewart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    There are plenty of evil villains with traumatic childhoods. Kerrigan is one of them.

    Until you go on a mass murder spree and kill a bunch of people, you can't really empathize with her actions, can you?
    That is why I'm saying Blizzard pushed this way too far. After speaking with those critics on HotS's story, I too grew more critical of her actions. The bottom line is that in the end she hasn't really learned much about humanity, except for the very worst they have to offer. Which is a shame since now Raynor would have to devote years to get her to see otherwise.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    Given all the experiments Kerrigan did in infesting terrans for the years after the BW, I can easily see why they'd still be attracted to psionics. Prior to the creation of Broodmothers, she wanted an infested terran to be her consort, which did happen temporarily with Ethan Stewart.
    That change of motivation is never elucidated in the games so the reason could be anything really. Also, since not all Terrans are psionic, I don't see how Kerrigan's interest in infesting humans (not having read any EU, I take it that it was merely for companionship and to have a pawn she could talk to?) would explain how Zerg creatures under her would still be attracted to psionics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    That change of motivation is never elucidated in the games so the reason could be anything really. Also, since not all Terrans are psionic, I don't see how Kerrigan's interest in infesting humans (not having read any EU, I take it that it was merely for companionship and to have a pawn she could talk to?) would explain how Zerg creatures under her would still be attracted to psionics.
    Her interest in infesting terrans was partially because she still wanted Raynor at her side, but she needed to make sure the virus won't turn him into a mindless mutant, hence the need to experiment on terrans. That's the NON-attraction to psionics reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    That's the NON-attraction to psionics reason.
    Huh? First, you said that Kerrigan's intent to continue infesting Terrans after BW is what led you to believe that that's the reason for why the Zerg are still attracted to psionics. Then I said that's not a reason because there's no link. Then you go and say it (Kerri infesting Terrans) is the reason for why the Zerg should not be attracted to psionics? Make up your mind Rag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    Huh? First, you said that Kerrigan's intent to continue infesting Terrans after BW is what led you to believe that that's the reason for why the Zerg are still attracted to psionics. Then I said that's not a reason because there's no link. Then you go and say it (Kerri infesting Terrans) is the reason for why the Zerg should not be attracted to psionics? Make up your mind Rag.
    I also went back and read the part that you said the whole attraction is something of the Overmind's will. You'd think it should be Amon's instead, since his original plan was for the swarm to assimilate the Protoss species, and he's smart enough to know not all species have psionics, so the sense should be something he programmed into the Zerg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    I also went back and read the part that you said the whole attraction is something of the Overmind's will. You'd think it should be Amon's instead, since his original plan was for the swarm to assimilate the Protoss species, and he's smart enough to know not all species have psionics, so the sense should be something he programmed into the Zerg.
    Who cares if it came from Amon? He still did it to the Overmind, the Overmind was still the Zerg and since the Overmindis gone, any programming would have gone with it.

    Also, this has nothing to do with you flip-flopping your opinion and making your position incomprehensible.
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    So, I've been wrestling with extreme apathy and haven't even bothered to download it.

    So, maybe I can change that. Is this kind of a return to SC1 roots now that the Amon trash is over? Is some of the old atmosphere back? If so, I'll probably take the plunge soon.



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