SC3 Plot Ideas

[Turalyon]

At the end of BW, I always felt Kerrigan felt empty with all that she's done. She saved the sector from the UED, yes, but she's alone, everybody hates her.

Thinking about these things would mean she retains her humanity. This was the question posed about her, and we get the answer. But it wasn't clear given the epilogue's ominious hinting that maybe there's something else out there. There's a threat, and her struggle isn't really over.

Maybe she feels the emptiness because the struggle isn't over.

Or maybe, that this ominous feeling would become her justification for having done what she just did. This perceived threat would sustain her for now, a form of rationalization, which she can use later, if said threat turns out to be actually real, to justify to herself that all she has done was for the greater good.

It's obvious that the ending is sequel bait to introduce another physical threat (especially when Dark Origins is included) but what I've always liked about Sc1/BW that it can be intrepreted in many ways. For example, I've always liked the psyhological explanation for why Kerrigan feel's empty/hollow as BW goes on and when she reaches its end. I like it because it's plausible even without considering that there is another actual future threat or that Dark Origins exist.

Because her damage as an abuse victim has made her rail against others and see all others as potential threats she must overcome lest she be trapped again, she's paranoid and therefore always on the look-out for threats. So even when she's surmounted all of her perceived threats in BW, it hasn't really healed the damage still there. She's tired/weary not because she's starting to have remorse, but because she's probably realising that she'll never stop looking for and reacting to perceived threats (even if they do not immediately exist yet).

Her victory is hollow because although she has "won" on an objective and material level, it's superficial since she's still stuck in the same psychological mindset she was in since the start. She hasn't really won the thing that she really needs most: freedom from her psychological torment.

[ragnarok]

At the end of BW, I always felt Kerrigan felt empty with all that she's done. She saved the sector from the UED, yes, but she's alone, everybody hates her.

Thinking about these things would mean she retains her humanity. This was the question posed about her, and we get the answer. But it wasn't clear given the epilogue's ominious hinting that maybe there's something else out there. There's a threat, and her struggle isn't really over.

Maybe she feels the emptiness because the struggle isn't over.

She felt empty because she's thinking at some point the terrans and Protoss would come back to exact their revenge. Then again, her arrogant mentality made it seem like she was untouchable, and that backfired on her just fine at the end of WoL.

[Nissa]

It's obvious that the ending is sequel bait to introduce another physical threat (especially when Dark Origins is included) but what I've always liked about Sc1/BW that it can be intrepreted in many ways. For example, I've always liked the psyhological explanation for why Kerrigan feel's empty/hollow as BW goes on and when she reaches its end. I like it because it's plausible even without considering that there is another actual future threat or that Dark Origins exist.

Because her damage as an abuse victim has made her rail against others and see all others as potential threats she must overcome lest she be trapped again, she's paranoid and therefore always on the look-out for threats. So even when she's surmounted all of her perceived threats in BW, it hasn't really healed the damage still there. She's tired/weary not because she's starting to have remorse, but because she's probably realising that she'll never stop looking for and reacting to perceived threats (even if they do not immediately exist yet).

Her victory is hollow because although she has "won" on an objective and material level, it's superficial since she's still stuck in the same psychological mindset she was in since the start. She hasn't really won the thing that she really needs most: freedom from her psychological torment.

Yeah, but it's even simpler than that. In BW, Kerrigan wasn't really fighting for anything. Sure, she has supremacy over the sector, but she also has nothing to live for. What does it matter that she's the big and bad? She has no goal, no one to fight for, and nothing she really seems to enjoy that would make life worth living. She has no friends, everyone who knows about her hates her, and she doesn't really have anyone to talk to.

That makes me think, though. How many people actually knew about Kerrigan in BW? The UED didn't find out until the end of the Terran missions, so possibly at that point she'd not appeared in Dominion/Umojan/Morian newsfeeds. Ie, they knew nothing about her, and couldn't report on her, and so the UED had no source of information about her.

[drakolobo]

IZSHA Points out that Kerrigan was preparing for the threat posed by the end of zerg in a vision, the vision of overmind. efforts of kerrigan was destined to the rebellion against amon

[ragnarok]

IZSHA Points out that Kerrigan was preparing for the threat posed by the end of zerg in a vision, the vision of overmind. efforts of kerrigan was destined to the rebellion against amon

You don't know that for sure. The BW ending only had her thinking she knew something was on the horizon. That could be interpreted in many different ways, not just Amon's threat.

[Turalyon]

Yeah, but it's even simpler than that. In BW, Kerrigan wasn't really fighting for anything. Sure, she has supremacy over the sector, but she also has nothing to live for. What does it matter that she's the big and bad? She has no goal, no one to fight for, and nothing she really seems to enjoy that would make life worth living. She has no friends, everyone who knows about her hates her, and she doesn't really have anyone to talk to.

Eh, I don't think she really cares for "friends" at that point in BW nor do I think the lack of which would prompt those hollow feelings from her.

Sure, you could say that she isn't fighting for anything "materialistic" (being reductive by including "friends" as "material" that is) but she is definitely not fighting without reason or for nothing. She's fighting to ensure that she is in control now and to never be in a position to be controlled/abused again. That's the only tangible thing she has left to pursue.

[ragnarok]

Sure, you could say that she isn't fighting for anything "materialistic" (being reductive by including "friends" as "material" that is) but she is definitely not fighting without reason or for nothing. She's fighting to ensure that she is in control now and to never be in a position to be controlled/abused again. That's the only tangible thing she has left to pursue.

Which was still stupid because she completely forgot about who she's trying to enslave.

I'm just not convinced she would have stopped later on, even if we disregard everything in SC2 with the prophecy and Amon.

[Turalyon]

Which was still stupid because she completely forgot about who she's trying to enslave.

What part of my quote are you responding to? Rather, what do you think you are replying to here? Nissa and I have said nothing about enslavement.

[GnaReffotsirk]

Rag uses induction methodology in his thinking process. Very beneficial for theorycraft, and speculative reasoning. He could have created a potential plot-point from another aspect of the lore, and combined them here to create what he sees.

It's very chaotic if he doesn't go through every point from which he took speculative freedom of, and placed that as an assumed point for another speculation in another subject.

I wish rag would reveal everything and not be too cryptic, and maybe, we can be quick about discussing what is acceptable or not.

[Nissa]

Eh, I don't think she really cares for "friends" at that point in BW nor do I think the lack of which would prompt those hollow feelings from her.

Sure, you could say that she isn't fighting for anything "materialistic" (being reductive by including "friends" as "material" that is) but she is definitely not fighting without reason or for nothing. She's fighting to ensure that she is in control now and to never be in a position to be controlled/abused again. That's the only tangible thing she has left to pursue.

Well, yeah, but it's also an empty goal. She's basically attained that in BW, and though probably she doesn't have the resources to attack immediately (assuming she wants to wipe out the Toss/Terrans), she does have lots of time to think. It is heavily implied that Kerrigan is emotionally vulnerable during the Zerg missions, and heavily implied that she's beginning to understand what exactly she has done. Given this and her time to think, she's going to realize, to a certain degree, that her life is hollow. Sure, she doesn't want to be hurt, but that's not a goal now, that's merely her state of being. And given her last interaction with Raynor, she's finally in a place to understand what she's become.