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    Default Re: Nissa finally caves in.

    Either you're exaggerating to, once again, rant about the shitty story telling and the contradictions, or you're unable to understand basic sentence structure.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    Either you're exaggerating to, once again, rant about the shitty story telling and the contradictions, or you're unable to understand basic sentence structure.
    No, she's just not repentant.

    not "technically"

    not "thematically"

    not "literally"

    not "kind of"

    in now way is she repentant, at all.

    "or you're unable to understand basic sentence structure."

    Or you just don't understand what "repentant" means, because that's sure as fuck not this character.

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    Blizzard intended her to be a repentant character. Fact. She is a repentant character, even though its never demonstrated effectively.

    Arcturus Mengsk was intended to be an effective leader. Fact. He is an effective leader, even though he's a joke.

    Azmodan was intended to be a strategic and tactical genius. Fact. He is a strategic and tactical genius, even though he's an idiot.

    Shitty story telling and inconsistencies have nothing to do with internal lore and that's what we're talking about here.



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    "Blizzard intended her to be a repentant character."

    And failed utterly.

    " She is a repentant character,"

    No she isn't.

    "even though its never demonstrated effectively."

    It's not demonstrated, period.

    "Arcturus Mengsk was intended to be an effective leader. Fact. He is an effective leader, even though he's a joke."

    This is true.

    "Azmodan was intended to be a strategic and tactical genius. Fact. He is a strategic and tactical genius, even though he's an idiot."

    I don't know, this is a diablo character, yes?

    "Shitty story telling and inconsistencies have nothing to do with internal lore and that's what we're talking about here."

    What "internal lore"? what do you mean?

    No attempts were made to make this character repentant, plain and simple, whether they planned on having that happen or not is irrelevant because it's not in the games in any way shape or form.

    not explicitly and not implicitly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    Blizzard intended her to be a repentant character. Fact. She is a repentant character, even though its never demonstrated effectively.

    Arcturus Mengsk was intended to be an effective leader. Fact. He is an effective leader, even though he's a joke.

    Azmodan was intended to be a strategic and tactical genius. Fact. He is a strategic and tactical genius, even though he's an idiot.

    Shitty story telling and inconsistencies have nothing to do with internal lore and that's what we're talking about here.
    I always felt Mengsk was a useless leader. For the most part SC2 showed the only thing he WAS good at was shooting his mouth off with hollow bombast

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    Eco's got you on this Strat.

    Kerrigan is repentant in the epilogue - she chooses to ascend because she wants to make up for the stuff she's done. Granted, it's not a very effective demonstration (in that it's feels like an informed trait/seems like pat exposition) but it is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    Eco's got you on this Strat.

    Kerrigan is repentant in the epilogue - she chooses to ascend because she wants to make up for the stuff she's done. Granted, it's not a very effective demonstration (in that it's feels like an informed trait/seems like pat exposition) but it is there.
    She doesn't do so to make up about what she's done, she doesn't care about that at all.

    nothing repentant about anything she's said or done in that scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiseStratosTygo View Post
    She doesn't do so to make up about what she's done, she doesn't care about that at all.

    nothing repentant about anything she's said or done in that scene.
    I'm afraid the game itself says otherwise:

    "Kerrigan: No, Jim. With all I've done-the lives ruined... worlds destroyed... There's blood on my hands. I need to cleanse it. This is my destiny."

    Like I said, it's too little, too late and not very effective/meaningful. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    I'm afraid the game itself says otherwise:

    "Kerrigan: No, Jim. With all I've done-the lives ruined... worlds destroyed... There's blood on my hands. I need to cleanse it. This is my destiny."

    Like I said, it's too little, too late and not very effective/meaningful. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though.
    And at the end of the last epilogue mission, she specifically said she chose freedom for others. That means ultimately she DID see beyond herself.

    Unfortunately, if nothing else, she shoud have at least lost her Xel'Naga powers and everything for that.

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    Default Re: Nissa finally caves in.

    Like I said, it's too little, too late and not very effective/meaningful. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though.
    My point exactly.

    I'd like to purify it from my headcanon, but that wouldn't change the fact that it is there.



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