[Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

[ragnarok]

The Zerg no. Kerrigan yes. Kerrigan is personally making life to make up for all the atrocities she committed. It's a way of balancing the scales. The zerg this time are just vindictive violent assholes, not cold blooded sadists.

Right. It's not like after spending that much time with the swarm made her PURELY Zerg in mentality. That was never the case even during the infestation years.

[TheEconomist]

The Zerg are biological organisms performing biological imperatives. Kerrigan is Zerg. Fuck that SC2 shit.

[ragnarok]

The Zerg are biological organisms performing biological imperatives. Kerrigan is Zerg. Fuck that SC2 shit.

She wasn't 100% Zerg and that still applied even after the primal transformation

[TheEconomist]

Sorry. I forgot to translate.

FUCK that SC2 SHIT.

[KaiserStratosTygo]

Sorry. I forgot to translate.

FUCK that SC2 SHIT.

We may not always agree.

but today we do.

[Nissa]

I would only be okay with a Kerrigan redemption plot if she died in the end. Not like noble sacrifice, or anything like that, just dies. Or she sort of regrets some of her actions, but is incapable of taking action that would help her escape the swarm.

[DarthYam]

I would only be okay with a Kerrigan redemption plot if she died in the end. Not like noble sacrifice, or anything like that, just dies. Or she sort of regrets some of her actions, but is incapable of taking action that would help her escape the swarm.

That kinda cheapens the whole plot and isn't really a redemption. Redemption stories have to have the character do something meaningful. In the Graphic novel version of kickass Red Mist saves Hitgirl from assassins, but gets a fatal bullet wound in the stomach. He dies from it and Hit Girl makes it very clear that it isn't enough to make amends. However, even if it doesn't fully absolve him of his other crimes it's enough that it kinda qualifies (saving a former foe at the cost of his own life in a desire to make things right.)

Honestly, Kaiser and Economist are being wankers.

[Nissa]

That kinda cheapens the whole plot and isn't really a redemption. Redemption stories have to have the character do something meaningful. In the Graphic novel version of kickass Red Mist saves Hitgirl from assassins, but gets a fatal bullet wound in the stomach. He dies from it and Hit Girl makes it very clear that it isn't enough to make amends. However, even if it doesn't fully absolve him of his other crimes it's enough that it kinda qualifies (saving a former foe at the cost of his own life in a desire to make things right.)

Honestly, Kaiser and Economist are being wankers.

Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean about "whole plot." Do you mean SC2? For the record, most of my posts on here carry the automatic assumption that SC2 isn't canon, and completely ignorable. If you mean Kerrigan's arc, then I'm not sure how. She's always been a tragic character and a pawn of several things -- the Confederacy, the Sons of Korhal, the Overmind, and finally, her own insecurities. The primary way to ruin her character is to give her a happily ever after ending.

But I was just saying that's the only way I'd take a redemption plot seriously. I don't necessarily mean that her arc should end in her dying. It's just a realistic end for her. If there's to be a "redemption" it should be the point where she's finally free of her own hatred, rather than her being directly noble. Though my personal favorite ending for her is that she should be permanently exiled to a small moon, where she is forced to remain a test subject for the rest of her life to help cure human infestation.

[DarthYam]

Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean about "whole plot." Do you mean SC2? For the record, most of my posts on here carry the automatic assumption that SC2 isn't canon, and completely ignorable. If you mean Kerrigan's arc, then I'm not sure how. She's always been a tragic character and a pawn of several things -- the Confederacy, the Sons of Korhal, the Overmind, and finally, her own insecurities. The primary way to ruin her character is to give her a happily ever after ending.

But I was just saying that's the only way I'd take a redemption plot seriously. I don't necessarily mean that her arc should end in her dying. It's just a realistic end for her. If there's to be a "redemption" it should be the point where she's finally free of her own hatred, rather than her being directly noble. Though my personal favorite ending for her is that she should be permanently exiled to a small moon, where she is forced to remain a test subject for the rest of her life to help cure human infestation.

BOOOORRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!! !!!! Having her only ever be a pawn and tragic gets boring. Having her lay the past to rest and become a hero would be a good way of ending her story. Even if she sacrifices her life to save the universe it's better. Heck LOV wrapped her story up. All in all I see a happy ending or at least bittersweet ending. All I can say is that if you think being a test subject the rest of her life is a good ending than WTF is wrong with you. That's just depressing and not in a good way. That's warhammer depressing and it's the kind of grim that only an emo teenager would like

[Nissa]

BOOOORRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!! !!!! Having her only ever be a pawn and tragic gets boring. Having her lay the past to rest and become a hero would be a good way of ending her story. Even if she sacrifices her life to save the universe it's better. Heck LOV wrapped her story up. All in all I see a happy ending or at least bittersweet ending. All I can say is that if you think being a test subject the rest of her life is a good ending than WTF is wrong with you. That's just depressing and not in a good way. That's warhammer depressing and it's the kind of grim that only an emo teenager would like

????

What's with the emotion? May I reply that I find that "redemptive" ending to be completely "boooooorrrrrriiinnnnnngggg"?

Uh, a writing idea generally isn't depressing in a good or bad way until it is executed. Besides, I'm not saying Kerrigan should be a pawn, I'm saying she always has been a pawn. Seriously, that's all she is in SC, and in BW she's incapable of acting outside of her emotional needs, namely, for power and revenge. If you think that's boring, well then, you must think SC/BW are boring.