Purifier Origins

[ragnarok]

^ BUT SHE, THE QUEEN OF BLADES, SAVED RAYNOR ON THE MOROS!!!

This act alone is as far removed from what the BW Queen of Blades (God! Now I have start delineating that there are two QoBs. Yeesh!) would have ever done. It's a clear indicator she's different, apart from looking tentacly and gross, and would've dissolved any fears that Raynor had about Kerrigan possibly being "evil" again. Raynor is just being a complete dick for calling her out about Fenix after this supposedly blackly evil person rescued his damned hide. That Fenix line is not only just a namecheck, but a poorly contrived one as well.

Like I said, it would've been more believable if he'd just been angry and repulsed by her physical appearance after he had made her beautiful again in WoL. Then again, maybe he was and was just namechecking Fenix to hide his utter shallowness as a human being.

Oh I know what you mean. Blizzard only put Fenix's mention in that cutscene simply because they felt it was necessary to still acknowledge the guy. In the end it was still just an afterthought.

[drakolobo]

^ BUT SHE, THE QUEEN OF BLADES, SAVED RAYNOR ON THE MOROS!!!
This act alone is as far removed from what the BW Queen of Blades (God! Now I have start delineating that there are two QoBs. Yeesh!) would have ever done. It's a clear indicator she's different, apart from looking tentacly and gross, and would've dissolved any fears that Raynor had about Kerrigan possibly being "evil" again. Raynor is just being a complete dick for calling her out about Fenix after this supposedly blackly evil person rescued his damned hide. That Fenix line is not only just a namecheck, but a poorly contrived one as well.

Kerrigan also sounded very friendly before betraying them all, "oh god please help me I am a victim." jim is fair to expect other than despair and convinced and he need more that only words something more substantial.
In addition, in the context of the average person kerrigan they ruined the possibility of being together all for revenge, truth jim outside the cosmic issues, to rescue him and Kerrigan were a normal woman.

Oh I know what you mean. Blizzard only put Fenix's mention in that cutscene simply because they felt it was necessary to still acknowledge the guy. In the end it was still just an afterthought.

ha blizzard Actually, had not an obligation to talk to Fenix, Jim was not talking profoundly about emotional problems , so I put the fable "old of the boy and the donkey",
Blizzard try to please fans of Fenix (including me) but inevitably there will be people who are not compliant. Now the trouble is that blizard, did obviously in response to complaints from the absence of Fenix, it's funny. the mention of Fenix, is not out of place and fits well to the stressful situation that suffers Jim, give more importance, it is unnecessary

[drakolobo]

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[ragnarok]

ha blizzard Actually, I had not an obligation to talk to Fenix, Jim was not talking profoundly about emotional problems , so I put the fable "old of the boy and the donkey",
Blizzard try to please fans of Fenix (including me) but inevitably there will be people who are not compliant. Now the trouble is that blizard, did obviously in response to complaints from the absence of Fenix, it's funny. the mention of Fenix, is not out of place and fits well to the stressful situation that suffers Jim, give more importance, it is unnecessary

Having emotional problems for Raynor was fine, I had no objections to that. But not to remember him would be considered almost like a betrayal to the alliance with the Protoss. This is made worse for the Haven mission when Selendis reminded Raynor of his actions to the Protoss people (before you even make a choice).

[drakolobo]

Having emotional problems for Raynor was fine, I had no objections to that. But not to remember him would be considered almost like a betrayal to the alliance with the Protoss. This is made worse for the Haven mission when Selendis reminded Raynor of his actions to the Protoss people (before you even make a choice).

so try to say that Jim does not speak openly about their loss, is reserved the sensitive issues, which had not mentioned Fenix does not mean they have forgotten.
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To my WoL shows that the relationship between Jim and the Protoss(in general) is not exactly the same in both directions, Jim felt affection for specific individuals Tassadar first, then Fenix and less Zeratul and Artanis. While Protoss react Raynor as another ally, Jim while respecting the protoss as race, go with some suspicion about protoss actions.
I hope to correct and become canonical the choice of Selendis, obviously knowing the history of the protoss Jim should be correct.

Finally seems to LotV has gestated a scene in honor the relationship of Jim and Protoss

[ragnarok]

Finally seems to LotV has gestated a scene in honor the relationship of Jim and Protoss

Initially it shouldn't. I'm expecting at the beginning, one of the first things Artanis would do is accuse Raynor, "hundreds of thousands of my people are dead because of your inability that the Kerrigan you loved died on Tarsonis all those years ago."

[Turalyon]

Kerrigan also sounded very friendly before betraying them all, "oh god please help me I am a victim." jim is fair to expect other than despair and convinced and he need more that only words something more substantial.
In addition, in the context of the average person kerrigan they ruined the possibility of being together all for revenge, truth jim outside the cosmic issues, to rescue him and Kerrigan were a normal woman.

Raynor is hardly in a position to be of any use to Kerrigan or anyone at this point in HotS story. She's clearly more powerful than ever before and what power Raynor did have in WoL has completely evaporated by that time we see him in jail for HotS. That she is even there to rescue him is an act that would've spoken more loudly that she's not like what she was. Raynor being angry at her is unreasonable and superficial. His first reaction to a selfless action from a person that would not have really benefited from this action is met with a value judgement based on what she looks like (we often call these type of people "arseholes"). Like I said, it seems more that he's just angry probably because Kerrigan ruined his hard work in making her beautiful again.

[ragnarok]

Raynor is hardly in a position to be of any use to Kerrigan or anyone at this point in HotS story. She's clearly more powerful than ever before and what power Raynor did have in WoL has completely evaporated by that time we see him in jail for HotS. That she is even there to rescue him is an act that would've spoken more loudly that she's not like what she was. Raynor being angry at her is unreasonable and superficial. His first reaction to a selfless action from a person that would not have really benefited from this action is met with a value judgement based on what she looks like (we often call these type of people "arseholes"). Like I said, it seems more that he's just angry probably because Kerrigan ruined his hard work in making her beautiful again.

And here I thought you hated the HotS story, Turalyon. It really makes me wonder how much of this you're being sarcastic on (assuming it's less than 100%)

[Turalyon]

Any sarcasm you detect is my way of highlighting the absurdity of how some things in the story are presented. Funnily enough, if Blizz actually meant/intended Raynor to be a total douche like I said above, that would've felt more honest than treating his hamfisted tirade against Kerrigan as being more than just the blatant namecheck that it was. He's supposed to be in love with her isn't he? That's what the story in Sc2 up to that point is trying to sell isn't it? Compared to that, I just find it ironically funny that all it took to put Raynor's love for her on hold here was just the mere sight of her looking ugly again despite him holding a frickin torch for her for 4+ years prior to this.

Also, where did I say I ever liked it? Regardless, subjective preference of something doesn't preclude me from making an observation about how trite Raynor's reaction is toward Kerrigan at the Moros.

[ragnarok]

Any sarcasm you detect is my way of highlighting the absurdity of how some things in the story are presented. Funnily enough, if Blizz actually meant/intended Raynor to be a total douche like I said above, that would've felt more honest than treating his hamfisted tirade against Kerrigan as being more than just the blatant namecheck that it was. He's supposed to be in love with her isn't he? That's what the story in Sc2 up to that point is trying to sell isn't it? Compared to that, I just find it ironically funny that all it took to put Raynor's love for her on hold here was just the mere sight of her looking ugly again despite him holding a frickin torch for her for 4+ years prior to this.

Also, where did I say I ever liked it? Regardless, subjective preference of something doesn't preclude me from making an observation about how trite Raynor's reaction is toward Kerrigan at the Moros.

You can argue all you want the relationship matter is absurd. I felt it was fine had Blizzard not stressed it so badly. The main problem is because no one ever learns in the SC universe. I would expect Artanis to accuse Raynor of having WAY too clouded a judgement on this.