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    Do we know if all Aiur Protoss severed their nerve cords? There must have been many across the galaxy, as well as those in orbit fighting the Spear. They couldn't have all heard Artanis' call to sever themselves -- unless Selendis sent out a broadcast to all Khalai through the Khala.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nissa View Post
    What Rag appears to be saying is that the 'Toss have no way to guarantee that the Khala won't get curbstomped again. Granted, they have no reason to believe it will, so it's pretty much open ended at this point.
    "Won't be curbstomped" by whom though? It's like we, the audience member, is supposed to expect that the Protoss to expect, in some "meta" way, that there'll be a force even more evil and powerful than Amon that will control them through the Khala if they tried going back to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nissa View Post
    Actually, if it weren't for LotV, we could be pretty certain that the DT might mostly have disappeared instead. While DT teachings wouldn't be abandoned, there would be no reason to rebel anymore against the Khala, if the factions can get along.
    Unless I'm mistaken, I thought the DT don't get along swimmingly with the Khalai Protoss even before LotV came out though. Eitherway, since BW I don't really see much of a difference between the Khalai or Nerazim Protoss aside from superficial differences.

    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    I'd allow a small number of Protoss to keep the Khala, but tell them of the dangers of it so that they'd be ready to sever their chords at a moment's notice if need be.

    This number has to be kept small in the event something goes wrong with the Khala again, other Protoss can forcibly sever it for them if they can't do it themselves
    The Tal'Darim were able to not be part of the Khala yet still keep their nerve chords (and somehow remain impervious to being forced back into Amon's servitude when they rebelled against him), so I'm sure there's a way that they can disconnect from it without resorting to vigilant self-mutilation. The Protoss were able to just disconnect from the Khala like their ancestors did to initiate the Aeon of Strife so I can't see why they can't just do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Do we know if all Aiur Protoss severed their nerve cords? There must have been many across the galaxy, as well as those in orbit fighting the Spear. They couldn't have all heard Artanis' call to sever themselves -- unless Selendis sent out a broadcast to all Khalai through the Khala.
    The Tal'Darim sure didn't and yet they are still not part of the Khala. I'm assuming all Khala using Protoss would have had to sever their chords though, otherwise, Amon wouldn't have been completely banished to the Void to be later killed by Ourrigan. Doesn't matter now anyway - Amon's gone and future Protoss children will have nerve chords so "no harm, no foul" in the end.
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    To make it worse, Blizzard is going the not only the cliche route of rebel robots, but the cliche route of "it's all the Conclave's fault." Newsflash, Blizz: the dumber you make the Conclave look, the dumber everyone else is for following it. Besides, wouldn't Templar prejudice make more sense? They'd be working with the cybernetics on a closer level, so their feelings would have more of an affect. .
    I agree with this. The whole thing just dumbed down the entire Protoss lore. They turned it into another human-like, French Revolution, which is not what I wanted from the Protoss. All that talk of freedom fromt he khala, and the caste system, just makes them feel more like fantasy elves instead of Protoss. Probably what they were going for.

    I wanted the Protoss to change and get less stupid (they've done their bid as comedic relief) which requires a lot of changes, but, once again, handled poorly.

    This act alone is as far removed from what the BW Queen of Blades (God! Now I have start delineating that there are two QoBs. Yeesh!)
    Let's just call the new Kerrigan the Angel of Blades, for simplicity sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    \Let's just call the new Kerrigan the Angel of Blades, for simplicity sake.
    No, econ. I still want to see her actually act for redemption. She still can do just that, if she can just learn

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    That's really dumb, but how does calling her the Angel of Blades have anything to do with that?

    Also,

    *ragpalm*



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    I agree with this. The whole thing just dumbed down the entire Protoss lore. They turned it into another human-like, French Revolution, which is not what I wanted from the Protoss. All that talk of freedom fromt he khala, and the caste system, just makes them feel more like fantasy elves instead of Protoss. Probably what they were going for.

    I wanted the Protoss to change and get less stupid (they've done their bid as comedic relief) which requires a lot of changes, but, once again, handled poorly.
    Not to mention that it's rectonning the dark/light unity of the Protoss, as set up in BW.

    Let's just call the new Kerrigan the Angel of Blades, for simplicity sake.
    I dunno, I kinda like "Ourrigan".

    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    "Won't be curbstomped" by whom though? It's like we, the audience member, is supposed to expect that the Protoss to expect, in some "meta" way, that there'll be a force even more evil and powerful than Amon that will control them through the Khala if they tried going back to it.
    The problem with what you're saying is that you're using the logical part of your brain. Think a minute about Blizz writers. If they felt the need to go out of their way to make the Khala bad, what stops them from making it permanent?

    In sentiment, I agree with you. But, ah, when was the last time logic was the basis of the SC story?


    Unless I'm mistaken, I thought the DT don't get along swimmingly with the Khalai Protoss even before LotV came out though. Eitherway, since BW I don't really see much of a difference between the Khalai or Nerazim Protoss aside from superficial differences.
    Well, that's more or less my point. The upcoming unity of the Protoss over time means that the cultural lines will blur. There won't really be any need for severing nerve cords in the future, more than likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    That's really dumb, but how does calling her the Angel of Blades have anything to do with that?

    Also,

    *ragpalm*
    Redemption isn't dumb, and calling her that only implies more killing.

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    I've just been calling her Retardigan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    I've just been calling her Retardigan.
    Just like PsioniX. This is why it's going to be hard to find a way to work out redemption in fanfics, but I will try to find a way, if I can find the time to write one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    Redemption isn't dumb, and calling her that only implies more killing.
    *Ragpalm*



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