Purifier Origins

[ragnarok]

Blizzard games are asshole.

Muspelli, get sad, mate.

Seriously Stratos, you really have to stop blaming them like this. If you really hate them so much, then just stop buying the games. I think this is a reason why there are youtubers who dislike you, because to them, all you have EVER commented on is how crappy the games are and how the whole Blizzard team should be executed for their failures.

This is one of the reasons why I never felt the the critics on the battlenet forums has EVER seen Blizzard succeed, unless you want to count "they succeeded at failing EVERYTHING."

[KaiserStratosTygo]

"Seriously Stratos, you really have to stop blaming them like this."

No.

I think I'll do it more.

trash company deserves trash treatment!

"If you really hate them so much, then just stop buying the games. "

it's almost as if I made a post on this forum saying I'd do just that!

Oh look! there it is! http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthrea...534#post200534

". I think this is a reason why there are youtubers who dislike you"

I couldn't care less for why people dislike me, it makes no difference to me.

I will not change my personality for some worthless cunts on the internet.

I hope blizzard crashes and BURNS.

FEEL THE BURN

[ragnarok]

I keep telling you, this isn't smart....

[Turalyon]

I agree that the Khalai were partly to blame, being complicit in the Conclave's decisions. How much did Khalai society manifest underlying psychological issues? How much of the individual's psyche was influenced/repressed/magnified by the emotional feedback loop of the Khala?

I don't necessarily think of the Conclave's decisions (as represented by Aldaris) were really indicative of the Khalai Protoss having "underlying psyhological issues" generally. They were really just doing things in the interest of the greater good of their own people - like most living things do. It's interesting though since if we want to talk about the problems of Khalai society and want to pin it all on the Conclave, we're not really blaming collectivism as the real reason behind their society's failure but rather the individualistic pursuit of a certain few (in this case, the Conclave). There's a great deal of irony in that given that individualism, especially in Sc2, is touted as always being the best.

What I'm really interested in is the FUTURE of the Khala. Some protoss will not want to let it go, but the only ones who can adopt it now are converted Tal'darim. Will the High Templar teach it to them? What kind of bad asses will they become?!

Like Rag said, new Protoss would be born with nerve cords so unless they want to deny their children the opportunity by cutting them off for each birth for whatever reason, I'm sure it'll comeback. Afterall, the source of the taint (Amon) is gone now. The Khala is safe so there's no reason why it shouldn't make a comeback.

[Jconant]

The taint would still be there turalyon; it is apparent amon made flaws in the protoss and the zerg such that he could manipulate both. with amon gone, it would take a very powerful being to usurp protoss through the khala, but it could still be done.

[Turalyon]

^ The key component to all this is Amon. He is not there anymore so therefore, no actual problem exists (it wasn't problem until LotV happened either).... unless another retcon is made where someone even more powerful than Amon was "behind it all". Then again, since Amon set a precedent for this sort of thing already, I can't see why they just can't keep on "pulling that rabbit out" indefinitely if they wanted to. Blizz has been blamed for revisionism for the treatment of their lore with Sc2, so I guess being blamed for being recursive in any follow-up as well shouldn't faze them much either.

[ragnarok]

Like Rag said, new Protoss would be born with nerve cords so unless they want to deny their children the opportunity by cutting them off for each birth for whatever reason, I'm sure it'll comeback. Afterall, the source of the taint (Amon) is gone now. The Khala is safe so there's no reason why it shouldn't make a comeback.

It's too risky. I would start it off where only a very small amount are allowed the Khala, over an indefinite period of time, and go from there

[Turalyon]

It's too risky.

What risk can you possibly be talking about? Amon was the only risk the Khala had and he is gone. There are no more other Xel'Naga around except for Kerrigan and she's an angel now, so the Protoss are free to Khala away really.

[Nissa]

What Rag appears to be saying is that the 'Toss have no way to guarantee that the Khala won't get curbstomped again. Granted, they have no reason to believe it will, so it's pretty much open ended at this point. We can be mostly sure that the Khala will appear again. Except for the fact Blizz hates everything non-DT....

Actually, if it weren't for LotV, we could be pretty certain that the DT might mostly have disappeared instead. While DT teachings wouldn't be abandoned, there would be no reason to rebel anymore against the Khala, if the factions can get along. Tassadar proved you can have nerve cords and still do DT stuff, so the young people who would have become DT are free to choose both, or even just the Khala, if they really wanted to. Hence, fewer DT over time.

Tura, I also agree super hard with your statement about Protoss society and the Conclave. So many times Blizzard has acted like the Conclave was the source of all the 'Toss problems, when really you have to look at the society as a whole -- surely it wasn't just Judicator who had an anti-DT bias, especially since potential DT could have come from any tribe. In fact, the manual basically states that there were two waves of DT -- the ones that Adun attempted to protect, and the ones that followed after, the ones that cut their nerve cords in solidarity. Seriously, read the manual again. That means there's probably families out there with memories of certain relatives joining the DTs.

In any case, I will continue to pretend that SC2 is bad fanfiction. Onwards and upwards.

[ragnarok]

I'd allow a small number of Protoss to keep the Khala, but tell them of the dangers of it so that they'd be ready to sever their chords at a moment's notice if need be.

This number has to be kept small in the event something goes wrong with the Khala again, other Protoss can forcibly sever it for them if they can't do it themselves