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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Archon View Post
    So, that would mean, the Protoss have had space ships longer than humanity has existed as a species...
    Modern humans have existed for at least 200,000 years.

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    Modern humans have existed for at least 200,000 years.
    And the Protoss would have been in space for millions of millions of years...

    Again, taking Waugh's comment seriously.

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    And the Protoss would have been in space for millions of millions of years...

    Again, taking Waugh's comment seriously.
    The Aeon of Strife ended 500 BC. That's 3000 years tops.

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    The Aeon of Strife ended 500 BC. That's 3000 years tops.
    Well, you already changed your stance from AD to BC I see.

    I already stated that the DTS says over two millennia ago in Adun's time. Not a straight two millennia ago, and well, millions of millions of years is technically over two millennia ago.

    That is stretching though, so if you don't like that explanation, and if Waugh is being serious, he's flat out retconning the DTS by saying the Khalai's mentality has existed for millions of millions of years.

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    Technically speaking, the Khala has existed as long as the Protoss have. They were created to use the Khala, and that which the Xel'Naga left behind to enable them to have it must have been there all along. Just because the 'Toss didn't know about it or have a name for it, doesn't mean it wasn't extant. Technically.

    That, and James Waugh does whatever he wants. These days it's more about getting players excited than making sense. That's the primary reason why I disregard "canon" beyond the manual and SC/BW. Canon's apparently whatever they make it, and I want off that merry-go-round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nissa View Post
    Technically speaking, the Khala has existed as long as the Protoss have. They were created to use the Khala, and that which the Xel'Naga left behind to enable them to have it must have been there all along. Just because the 'Toss didn't know about it or have a name for it, doesn't mean it wasn't extant. Technically.
    Eh, I'm going to disagree there because James Waugh explicitly stated that the Khalai's mentality with the Khala has existed for millions of millions of years. I was just using the Khala for short.

    Quote Originally Posted by James Waugh
    "So, thematically, what was interesting to me, I really think this is a campaign, narratively, about a race that needs to change. This is an ancient race that has been bound to a thinking that really has served its time. It's Millions of Millions of years you know. These are creatures that live a thousand years."

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    Well, you already changed your stance from AD to BC I see.
    Yeah I get those mixed up.

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    Eh, I'm going to disagree there because James Waugh explicitly stated that the Khalai's mentality with the Khala has existed for millions of millions of years. I was just using the Khala for short.
    If Khas discovered the Khala from the Xel'Naga's work, then the Xel'Naga must have created the Khala by (a) making the Protoss able to use it and (b) leaving behind what Khas needed to figure it out. It doesn't matter at all how many years pass. It just matters that the Protoss once had the link, lost it, and then Khas discovered it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nissa View Post
    If Khas discovered the Khala from the Xel'Naga's work, then the Xel'Naga must have created the Khala by (a) making the Protoss able to use it and (b) leaving behind what Khas needed to figure it out. It doesn't matter at all how many years pass. It just matters that the Protoss once had the link, lost it, and then Khas discovered it again.
    I think you're missing the point.

    A) He's not talking about the Khala being that old.

    B) He's talking specifically about how the Khalai (As in the Protoss who follow the Khala, not the Khala itself) think being that old.

    Which means the Protoss from SC1 have been around with that government for millions of years.

    It doesn't really matter anyways since you don't really care about how they handle the new lore, so, let's not have this blow up like the other argument did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Archon View Post
    I think you're missing the point.
    Says the king of missing the point. Dude, I was just making a comment. Not everything is an epic debate that's referring to several posts ago. Please relax and let's just converse.

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