Writing a New Starcraft 2 storyline

[Nissa]

Well, for me, the books don't count as canon, so yeah.

[ragnarok]

Well, for me, the books don't count as canon, so yeah.

*shrugs* I see it differently. The WoL and HotS both contained traces of the DT Saga in it.

[TheEconomist]

Well, for me, the books don't count as canon, so yeah.

Do you count StarCraft 2 as canon? I'd take some of the books over StarCraft II and a few parts of Brood War any day.

[Nissa]

Do you count StarCraft 2 as canon? I'd take some of the books over StarCraft II and a few parts of Brood War any day.

No, I don't. It's just too aesthetically different to match SC and BW. Those are the only things I consider canon, besides some of the downloadable missions. Unless there's a book out there better than what I've read, nope. Though I don't mind Nova's backstory. It wasn't written well, but the idea of her working for a crime lord isn't bad.

As far as the DT Saga goes, it makes the ancient Protoss look too stupid. I'm sorry, nobody's getting all that excited over a drawing, especially since the Xel'Naga artifacts probably already had drawings on them. Also, I find it silly how the Dark Templar waited 2,000 or however many years before rebelling against the Khala. It makes more sense for people to rebel against the Khala when it's first introduced, especially when the DT Saga portrays the Khala as some sort of "everybody understands each other", happy-happy thing that supposedly erases all conflict. No, the Khala isn't like that, if SC proves anything.

There's moments in SC and BW I dislike. Particularly when Tassadar attacks the Conclave when the planet is under attack by the Zerg. That's traitorous, and pretty awful considering how many other Protoss died on Aiur. Say what you will about the Conclave, but I don't feel like Tass is dumb enough to waste lives killing them instead of the Zerg.

But as far as other inconsistencies go, I'm okay with them. Since these are games, there's natural gaps in the storytelling that can be filled by our imaginations. Like, why Kerrigan let Zeratul go after he killed Raszagal instead of using him to do bad things to the 'Toss. Kerrigan was never about destroying the 'Toss. It was always about getting "revenge" on anyone who ever pissed her off. Zeratul fought her on Char, and is probably a substitute for Tassadar since he offended Kerri worse. The game never explicitly states this, but its an easy enough extrapolation to make.

[DonnyZeDoof]

Like, why Kerrigan let Zeratul go after he killed Raszagal instead of using him to do bad things to the 'Toss. Kerrigan was never about destroying the 'Toss. It was always about getting "revenge" on anyone who ever pissed her off. Zeratul fought her on Char, and is probably a substitute for Tassadar since he offended Kerri worse. The game never explicitly states this, but its an easy enough extrapolation to make.

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I have trouble understanding your reasoning.

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Like, why Kerrigan let Zeratul go after he killed Raszagal instead of using him to do bad things to the 'Toss. Kerrigan was never about destroying the 'Toss. It was always about getting "revenge" on anyone who ever pissed her off. Zeratul fought her on Char, and is probably a substitute for Tassadar since he offended Kerri worse. The game never explicitly states this, but its an easy enough extrapolation to make.

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I have trouble understanding your reasoning.

[ragnarok]

There's moments in SC and BW I dislike. Particularly when Tassadar attacks the Conclave when the planet is under attack by the Zerg. That's traitorous, and pretty awful considering how many other Protoss died on Aiur. Say what you will about the Conclave, but I don't feel like Tass is dumb enough to waste lives killing them instead of the Zerg.

It really depends on how Tassadar saw the Conclave. Maybe he had expected at some point, that by destroying their power base, the Conclave would ultimately have to see reason. Except that didn't happen until in Shadow Hunters, after Zeratul killed the Cerebrates.

[Nissa]

It really depends on how Tassadar saw the Conclave. Maybe he had expected at some point, that by destroying their power base, the Conclave would ultimately have to see reason. Except that didn't happen until in Shadow Hunters, after Zeratul killed the Cerebrates.

Trouble is, that's stupid for Tassadar. Killing the leaders of the Protoss is the best way to get the normal Protoss populace to hate your guts. As "heretical" as it might be to associate with the DT, doing so doesn't actually hurt anyone. Directly attacking people who would otherwise being attempting to protect the planet is just plain stupid.

Think about it, Donny. Kerrigan at no point has ever been in control of her life. She was captured by the Confederates, used by Mengsk, mutilated by the Zerg, and only now that she's brought about the destruction of the second Overmind, destroyed the cerebrates, and weakened her enemies has she gotten to the point where she alone controls her life. She's shown reluctance to kill in the last missions, to boot.

[DonnyZeDoof]

Think about it, Donny. Kerrigan at no point has ever been in control of her life. She was captured by the Confederates, used by Mengsk, mutilated by the Zerg, and only now that she's brought about the destruction of the second Overmind, destroyed the cerebrates, and weakened her enemies has she gotten to the point where she alone controls her life. She's shown reluctance to kill in the last missions, to boot.

I always assumed that Kerrigan spared her opponents due to the same reason why Bane didn't kill Batman in The Dark Knight Rises. Death would not be a fitting punishment as it would be swift and let one rest in peace. So Kerrigan decided to let her biggest enemies live and simply destroy everything around them. This would turn their lives into a living hell. I think that' why she spared Raynor, Artanis and Mengsk in SC and BW. Not sure why she killed DuGalle though. Maybe it was because he was too much of a threat to her?

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Think about it, Donny. Kerrigan at no point has ever been in control of her life. She was captured by the Confederates, used by Mengsk, mutilated by the Zerg, and only now that she's brought about the destruction of the second Overmind, destroyed the cerebrates, and weakened her enemies has she gotten to the point where she alone controls her life. She's shown reluctance to kill in the last missions, to boot.

I always assumed that Kerrigan spared her opponents due to the same reason why Bane didn't kill Batman in The Dark Knight Rises. Death would not be a fitting punishment as it would be swift and let one rest in peace. So Kerrigan decided to let her biggest enemies live and simply destroy everything around them. This would turn their lives into a living hell. I think that' why she spared Raynor, Artanis and Mengsk in SC and BW. Not sure why she killed DuGalle though. Maybe it was because he was too much of a threat to her?

[GnaReffotsirk]

Did Tassadar really attack the Conclave, or were they trying to defend them from the Conclave strike force or something?

[ragnarok]

Trouble is, that's stupid for Tassadar. Killing the leaders of the Protoss is the best way to get the normal Protoss populace to hate your guts. As "heretical" as it might be to associate with the DT, doing so doesn't actually hurt anyone. Directly attacking people who would otherwise being attempting to protect the planet is just plain stupid.

It's also possible that maybe Tassadar was trying to see if his people would come to their senses or something. In real warfare, soldiers and officers that lead from the frontline are experiencing what's happening. The generals that are hundreds of miles from the battlefield don't have as clear of a picture.

Now yes, the Protoss military has obeyed the Conclave for centuries, but maybe Tassadar felt with the swarm still spreading destruction across Aiur, maybe they'll begin to see the Conclave's orders simply aren't producing results.

Think about it, Donny. Kerrigan at no point has ever been in control of her life. She was captured by the Confederates, used by Mengsk, mutilated by the Zerg, and only now that she's brought about the destruction of the second Overmind, destroyed the cerebrates, and weakened her enemies has she gotten to the point where she alone controls her life. She's shown reluctance to kill in the last missions, to boot.

What showing reluctance? After Fenix's death, Kerrigan DID say she had grown weary of the slaughter and all that, but then became more cold and bloodthirsty over time. This was shown after the BW events anyway. In some ways, letting Raynor go at the end of BW was so she could watch his despair at his impotence at everything, which ultimately backfired on her in WoL, but I don't think Kerrigan saw that coming.

The same was true for Mengsk and the Protoss forces. This marked the beginning of her arrogance in completely forgetting the swarm still had limitations, and she did NOT have limitless power (which at least she admitted THAT in HotS). The swarm thus deserved to be reduced to a shadow of its former self for her stupidity in barely relenting control to anyone else and her naiveness in thinking she was without limits.