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  1. #81

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    VoK, from what I saw, he didn't use the warp blade before "invading" Aiur. He seems to have acquired it after fighting Zeratul. Pay close attention to the sequence of events in the trailer. It is different from the trailers we've had before. This one is a true trailer in the sense that they changed the chronological order of things around. The "My Life for Aiur" part is most definitely AFTER that scene where Zeratul appears to "appear" before Artanis for the very first time. So, it could make sense that Zeratul dies, either by Artanis' hands or something, Blizzard knows how, and Artanis affixes the Warp Blade to his own forearm, and Kerrigan appears before him and gets brutalized by that Hybrid Reaver.



    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Hahahaha! Thanks for that! But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the way things are leaning for the story, be it good storytelling or bad.

    What I'm annoyed about most is the utter lack of diversity in Protoss. At least in WoL their portraits retained a hint of difference in skin pigmentation, but now they're all blue space elves.
    I don't think that's how it is... The Protoss we've seen do seem different from one another, with Karax as an example as being brown pigmented instead of the bluish gray of Artanis, while Vorazun is a lot more purple and Rohana is just blue, which contrasts with Selendis' gray skin in the opening scenes.

  2. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by protoswarrior View Post
    I don't think that's how it is... The Protoss we've seen do seem different from one another, with Karax as an example as being brown pigmented instead of the bluish gray of Artanis, while Vorazun is a lot more purple and Rohana is just blue, which contrasts with Selendis' gray skin in the opening scenes.
    Dude, that's not really enough. I'm with Khas on this one. They look like Protoss created from an automated Warcraft alien generator, and then each slightly adjusted just enough to look vaguely different.

    Compare this to the faces of SC and BW. Aldaris looked like a gingerbread man, Tassadar was very blue and sculpted, Fenix looked like a fancy vase, Zeratul looked all craggly, Razagal was....strange, and Artanis looked all smooth because he's far younger than the other characters. In other words, their faces were all very different, a reflection of who each of them were as individuals. Someone clearly took the time to design these guys.

  3. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nissa View Post
    Dude, that's not really enough. I'm with Khas on this one. They look like Protoss created from an automated Warcraft alien generator, and then each slightly adjusted just enough to look vaguely different.

    Compare this to the faces of SC and BW. Aldaris looked like a gingerbread man, Tassadar was very blue and sculpted, Fenix looked like a fancy vase, Zeratul looked all craggly, Razagal was....strange, and Artanis looked all smooth because he's far younger than the other characters. In other words, their faces were all very different, a reflection of who each of them were as individuals. Someone clearly took the time to design these guys.
    I actually disagree with that being better design... I found it annoying and inconsistent that Protosses were so very different. I really wanted the current type of consistency in Protoss from Broodwar, but had no choice but to accept the product we received.

    While I understand the need for differentiation due to the diversity of the tribes and castes in the Protoss race, the changes in Broodwar were TOO drastic. SC2 Protoss look much better, imo, and speak to the unified nature of the race as a whole, and still differentiates them by tribes and castes by having different facial features that do not stray TOO far away from the Protoss look. The major difference in look which is a huge improvement over Broodwar was with female Protoss characters like Rohana and Selendis. They're also seemingly young since Zamara looked a bit older, from the art cover in the Dark Templar trilogy.

    I like the new Protoss look better than the Broodwar one because it seems to have more definition without being over the top.

  4. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protoswarrior
    VoK, from what I saw, he didn't use the warp blade before "invading" Aiur. He seems to have acquired it after fighting Zeratul.
    It's possible that the scene he's giving the rallying speech happens at some point after Aiur, but the way it's cut into the trailer makes it seem as though it's the eve of the invasion on Aiur.

    Looking at the gauntlet on Artanis' right arm during the Rallying scene, you can see it fits exactly with the underside of the Warp Blade he later wields.



    The gauntlet is clearly more brass in color, elongated, and streamlined.
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

  5. #85

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    That's an interesting set of screenshots there, VoK.

    Hmm, I'll have to rewatch the video again. You cast doubt in my mind - so evil :P

  6. #86

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    Well, I've been wondering. The Invasion scene in the trailer takes place over a sterile, grey world or moon that looks nothing like Aiur. Could this be Saalok, Aiur's moon? Or is Aiur just that overcast with clouds?
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

  7. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    I've become confused about the scenes we see in the trailer, and the campaign preview panel. While Artanis has two Psi Blades while aboard the Spear of Adun, he wield a Warp Blade in all cutscenes from the trailer, including right before the offensive on Aiur when he's giving his rallying speech.


    Also, I'm just going to go ahead and be an ass and argue my theory about Kerrigan and Artanis merging a little bit more:



    " about Kerrigan and Artanis merging a little bit more"

    I will take a bath with my Toaster if they do this.
    Last edited by KaiserStratosTygo; 11-14-2014 at 02:32 PM.

  8. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nissa View Post
    I'm aware. And I'm pretty pissed off about it. Mengsk is a baddie we all know and love to hate. Amon? Some unknown schlub we have no emotional attachment to. Mengsk should either have a semi-redemption plot (in the form of him doing something good-ish before dying) or his death should be a part of a penultimate battle with a bigger baddie. Or he can perhaps live on, watching other people take over his empire while he is either exiled or sent to prison. Letting Mengsk die as a part of a romance novel climax is awful. Just plain awful.

    I hope the games don't go to Earth. It's nice to have a story where our home planet isn't a focus or in danger.
    This is why Amon should have been around to wreak his havoc in WoL or something. At least THEN by the time of LotV we'd get to know him better. This is why I'm not convinced LotV can just cover his entire story, unless he's able to survive LotV.

  9. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by protoswarrior View Post
    VoK, from what I saw, he didn't use the warp blade before "invading" Aiur. He seems to have acquired it after fighting Zeratul. Pay close attention to the sequence of events in the trailer. It is different from the trailers we've had before. This one is a true trailer in the sense that they changed the chronological order of things around. The "My Life for Aiur" part is most definitely AFTER that scene where Zeratul appears to "appear" before Artanis for the very first time. So, it could make sense that Zeratul dies, either by Artanis' hands or something, Blizzard knows how, and Artanis affixes the Warp Blade to his own forearm, and Kerrigan appears before him and gets brutalized by that Hybrid Reaver.
    It's possible for Zeratul to die, but I don't think they'd kill him off THAT early in the game. Remember, according to the lore panel, after leaving Aiur on the Spear of Adun, Artanis has a choice to go to Korhal or Shakuras. The former is only at Zeratul's request.

  10. #90

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    I will take a bath with my Toaster if they do this.
    I'll be holding you to that.

    At what point did Archimonde make his debut to the world in WarCraft 3? Because that's Amon's WarCraft counterpart right there.

    It's possible for Zeratul to die, but I don't think they'd kill him off THAT early in the game. Remember, according to the lore panel, after leaving Aiur on the Spear of Adun, Artanis has a choice to go to Korhal or Shakuras. The former is only at Zeratul's request.
    It's also likely that Zeratul asked Artanis to gain the support of Humanity in his dying breath. Artanis then goes frolicking across Terran space to gain support by aiding Valerian against the Shadow Corps. Kinda like Shepard in Mass Effect 3.
    Last edited by Visions of Khas; 11-14-2014 at 02:46 PM.
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

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