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    *woooooooosh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    *woooooooosh*

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    Its impossible to experience something that didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid View Post
    Its impossible to experience something that didn't happen.
    Aaand sold.


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    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

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    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

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    I take the comparison to Drax as a compliment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyZeDoof View Post
    But I think the primary reason that Blizzard split the game into a trilogy is because they had problems writing the story (problems they probably have yet to resolve). They didn't know what to do with the story so they had to spend extra time on it. On the other hand, they knew where to go wit hthe multiplayer (althought their design choices may not have been the best). So in the end they had a decent multiplayer ready and a story that wasn't even 1/3rd written.
    Nah, it's got nothing to do with that. The decision was most likely to make some more money by squeezing what they could from fan nostalgia. Why else would you make a sequel so late after the original? Either way, the decision seems to be working well for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    Nah, it's got nothing to do with that. The decision was most likely to make some more money by squeezing what they could from fan nostalgia. Why else would you make a sequel so late after the original? Either way, the decision seems to be working well for them.
    I don't see the logic in that because, as time passes, fan perception of the series is going to shift from nostalgic memories of StarCraft 1 to the more recent cringe worthy memories of StarCraft 2.

    StarCraft 2 probably just came late because shortly after it was released, the WoW era began. When Blizzard realised how much money they could make off it, they decided to pour all their resources into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyZeDoof View Post
    I don't see the logic in that because, as time passes, fan perception of the series is going to shift from nostalgic memories of StarCraft 1 to the more recent cringe worthy memories of StarCraft 2.
    You'd be surprised at how powerful nostalgia is (this site has long been testament to this). WoL can be forgiven for it's foibles because it's been 12 years and people are just glad that something they loved back then is now back again. Whatever negatives in WoL could be brushed aside because HotS was an opportunity (at the time before it's release) to try and correct those mistakes - going on nostalgic hope, people get suckered into it again especially since we have Kerrigan again. Seeing that HotS was pretty much lacklustre when it came out, Blizz now has to make sure LotV fires and they do this by making it stand-alone (if anything, a subtle nod that WoL and HotS are somewhat superfluous), having a completely different perspective (the Protoss are unique in being more alien than Terrans whereas HotS failed miserably in this regard by focusing too much on Terran dynamics rather than what it is to be Zerg) and focusing on the only thing that mattered since BW ended (the Hybrid stuff).

    By all accounts, people around here are actually excited for LotV especially because of the promise that things would be back to what they liked. Time will tell if LotV lives up to it.

    Of course, this is excluding new players who get suckered in alternatively by the eye candy and snazzy production values who know nothing or care little about the first game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    the Protoss are unique in being more alien than Terrans whereas HotS failed miserably in this regard by focusing too much on Terran dynamics rather than what it is to be Zerg
    One of the most disappointing aspects of HotS is that it was advertised as an in-depth look into the Zerg but all it basically did was retcon lore and focus too much on Kerrigan's humanity. HotS probably could have worked much better if they still had Kerrigan as the QoB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    You'd be surprised at how powerful nostalgia is (this site has long been testament to this).
    I wonder how disappointed you all were when StarCraft 2 first came out. I think I'll go back and check the previous threads.

    EDIT:

    I found these threads:
    http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthrea...trust-Blizzard
    http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthrea...Before-Release

    It's pretty funny to read it now because so many users on this forum had so much faith in Blizzard. 50% of them voted that Blizzard would make StarCraft 2 perfect in every aspect. 68% voted that they would be blown away after finishing the campaign. Well I do think they were blown away but not the way they were expecting to be blown away.

    StarCraft 2 sure must have been a slap in the face to many users. It's funny that from 2009 - 2010, this particular sub-forum had over 140 pages of threads. Now it's 4 years later and only about 40 additional pages of threads have been posted. It's ironic that StarCraft 2 killed off a majority of this forum's activity.
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    Well, I'm just happy I have somewhere to hang out and wax nostalgic. I can just close my eyes and pretend SCII doesn't exist, when it comes down to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyZeDoof View Post
    One of the most disappointing aspects of HotS is that it was advertised as an in-depth look into the Zerg but all it basically did was retcon lore and focus too much on Kerrigan's humanity. HotS probably could have worked much better if they still had Kerrigan as the QoB.
    Funny thing about this is that some (Gradius in particular) have commented on how inhuman and morally bankrupt/evil Kerrigan still is in HotS. Before HotS released, I made a similar comment about how this would have been an interesting aspect to explore (how Kerrigan's regained humanity does not necessarily have to mean that her actions are or will be good/right/just) but that it would most likely not be explored in any depth. I was proven right since the game does seem more interested in lauding Kerrigan's actions in HotS in a positive light more than anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyZeDoof View Post
    I wonder how disappointed you all were when StarCraft 2 first came out. I think I'll go back and check the previous threads.
    I came here after all those threads you brought up were done.

    For me, I was (once again, one of the very few most likely) somewhat wary (and at worst, out-right negative) about the announcement of Sc2 way back then. Even though BW was far from perfect, I could only really see one way the story would naturally follow unless someone started pulling shenanigans (lo and behold, WoL did have to resort to it in order to continue the story). Following the development of WoL just made me even more wary of it. It wasn't enough to turn me off though. There was just enough curiosity and nostalgia to compel me to have a look at it, not that I thought that it'd be any good in terms of story/lore. In the end, I actually got what I expected... though what I expected was not what I actually wanted.
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