Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?

[Nissa]

I gotta go with Rag on this one. Sure, you're smart, Econ, but you've got a pretty good capacity for misinterpreting things yourself. Also, a good capacity at taking Starcraft talk too seriously. Maybe Rag hasn't got your posts (I don't know, I haven't been keeping up), but at least Rag can keep the topic on Starcraft itself, rather than calling others autistic or something.

In other words, Starcraft is not a thing worth insulting people over. We're having discussion. Are you really going to call others names over a doomed franchise?

[ragnarok]

I gotta go with Rag on this one. Sure, you're smart, Econ, but you've got a pretty good capacity for misinterpreting things yourself. Also, a good capacity at taking Starcraft talk too seriously. Maybe Rag hasn't got your posts (I don't know, I haven't been keeping up), but at least Rag can keep the topic on Starcraft itself, rather than calling others autistic or something.

In other words, Starcraft is not a thing worth insulting people over. We're having discussion. Are you really going to call others names over a doomed franchise?

It's not about that, Nissa. The problem is that while he's claimed to have admitted fault before, I have NEVER seen that happen. To anyone who doesn't share his POV, he automatically assumes that means the other person is a complete retard who has no damn clue what he/she is talking about, and his claims cannot be disproven by anyone under any circumstance.

That's not the way it works. Sure, the guy can accuse me being wrong, and I admit my reasoning for what I THOUGHT Blizzard was thinking is probably wrong too. Maybe Blizzard wasn't thinking that AT ALL.

But being wrong at least opens the chance to learn from what you did wrong. Thus being wrong all the time has the opportunity for you learn from it.

Now in his case, what the hell do you learn if you're RIGHT all the time?

[TheEconomist]

@Nissa:

Sure, you're smart, Econ, but you've got a pretty good capacity for misinterpreting things yourself.

Sure, maybe I do, although I would say it has more to do with a general schizophrenia of your own posting habits. It's hard to ride the waves of up and down that you go through several times in a single conversation to know what you're saying. Sorry, as someone who has stayed mostly at the same level for his entire life, I just can't keep up.

Also, a good capacity at taking Starcraft talk too seriously.

I couldn't care less about StarCraft and, no, I do not take it too seriously. I just don't sugar coat what I see. If what has been said is stupid, I say it. I do the world no good by letting stupid shit stand. That being said, I have been infinitely more patient with you than I usually am and definitely more than you deserve since you've been a bitch to several people since you got here.

It is also the mother of all hypocrisy that you accuse me of taking StarCraft too seriously when it is you getting upset about challenges to your assertions about StarCraft. I'm too tired of stupid shit like this to go back into your topics and "nitpick" you to death, and I don't really care, the people here who are admirable of enough to be subjective will see it for themselves, and that's all I care about.

I gotta go with Rag on this one.

Your attempt to use my own word usage on me shows this is about more than just this topic alone. Clearly, you're unable to separate distinct debates in your mind and have to carry over emotion from one into the other. I can get pretty mean with certain posters but at least I restart to zero with the next one. With Squibb, unless the topic comes back to his failed economics predictions, I always reset to zero so that I can actually agree with and defend Squibb.

at least Rag can keep the topic on Starcraft itself, rather than calling others autistic or something.

I hear reading helps with comprehension problems like this. But, no, you need to vent so why not jump in here without previous knowledge?

Let me get you up to speed, I never said he was autistic. I have said that I have picked up on some autistic things and ASKED HIM if he was autistic because I do not want to give someone shit for something they cannot help. Ragnarok ignores my question in his typical fashion (didn't even understand, talk about something else) so I'm forced to ask him again and again or risk feeling like a dick later. I have never called him autistic, and if I was sure he was autistic, I would be much more patient with him.

In summation (if we are to resume helpful discussion), you need to separate the issues in your mind. Obviously, you don't know enough about this to have even commented. If I was some random poster, you wouldn't have, but, just like your responses to everything I've seen you do (online and in real life) you respond in ignorance with hostility. Typical "intuitive" thinkers, immediately encounter a new concept, rush to an opinion, never analyze or test predictive capability, defend with strong bipolar emotion to any perceived threat to mind state. Poor Neil Patrick Harris.

I would say something about you being a typical Khristian, but I've already shown you your hypocrisy in other topics so why waste my time again?





@Ragnarok:

The problem is that while he's claimed to have admitted fault before, I have NEVER seen that happen.

I know it's hard for you to believe but you are not everywhere on the internet. You weren't even here during SCL heyday. I admit fault all the time, it's just that I'm rarely wrong about most things and the rest are so subjective that I cannot be proven wrong. You've never talked about economics AFAIK, for example, so how could you prove me wrong if all you're talking about is your brainless misusage of phrases?

That being said, I've seceded many points to many people here recently. Nissa, for example, but also others. However, finding these things would require investigation and that's just not something you do.

On the battlenet forums, all you ever did was do all you can to brow-beat everyone there of how stupid everyone is on those forums, other than yourself, because of those who didn't share your POV.

I'm only there to begin with because Gradius PM's me that he needs some back up. Therefore, I'm only even at the forums to begin with under specific circumstances when poor Gradius is being subjected to stupidity so great and awe inspiring that no one of his intellect should have to encounter. That being said, you remember what my first post was on that forum?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/to...486?page=8#148

I typed many, many walls of text and was patient with stupid posters like yourself for a long time before I gave up with the pretense. What made me give up? It wasn't even the stupidity, it was the insults. So keep shit right in your head kid. Not only have I done more than brow-beat people, I was more patient and gracious towards people than anyone else there even when they didn't deserve it. It's just that, unlike you, when something is stupid, I say it. Period.

Its quite telling about the both of you that you continually try to attack me with this unfounded accusation when in actuality I'm about the only person you're likely to have come in contact with that actually knows when they are right or wrong. Again, I tell you, I am an investor. I invest in things and put money on the line so large that you would never sleep peacefully again if you were gambling it like I am. I keep up everyday with how right or wrong I am using a universal standard. I know exactly when I am right or wrong, and not only do I learn from my mistakes (or else I would be broke by now) but I learn from my mistakes to a far greater extent than you ever have or ever will. When you are wrong, what happens to you? You get a harsh comment from a big bad meanie like me? Boo-hoo. I lose my fucking house. Who of us has the greater motivation to accept fault? Hmm? If I was as hard-headed as you say or even one hundredth as hard-headed as you two, I would be living on the streets.

I accept fault when I am at fault because I have to. I have no choice. My fault slaps me in the face, bashes me in the head, and fucks me in the ass when I am wrong. Pretty hard to ignore. What you two want me to do has nothing to do with that. You want me to be more humble and admit from time to time that I am wrong for emotional and social reasons even when there is no reason to, and that I will never do.

Now in his case, what the hell do you learn if you're RIGHT all the time?

Tell me, what is a non-intellectual, non-professional youth with very little real world experience that never tests his predictive capabilities against a universal, unbiased measure going to tell me about subjective, ideological concepts? When you are able to predict global changes years before the most brilliant people in the world and generate large sum of money BASED SOLELY on your understanding of how the world works and your ability to be objective with data, then I'll take your opinion more seriously. But, from what I've seen, all you've ever done is spout with ignorant certainty the truths of cliche, overused phrases as if you were bestowing upon me some great knowledge. Typical of small minds. Cue emotional denial.

I really do need a vacation from the internet. Fucking idiots everywhere.

[Nissa]

@Nissa:
Sure, maybe I do, although I would say it has more to do with a general schizophrenia of your own posting habits. It's hard to ride the waves of up and down that you go through several times in a single conversation to know what you're saying. Sorry, as someone who has stayed mostly at the same level for his entire life, I just can't keep up.

If you say so.

I couldn't care less about StarCraft and, no, I do not take it too seriously. I just don't sugar coat what I see. If what has been said is stupid, I say it. I do the world no good by letting stupid shit stand. That being said, I have been infinitely more patient with you than I usually am and definitely more than you deserve since you've been a bitch to several people since you got here.

It is also the mother of all hypocrisy that you accuse me of taking StarCraft too seriously when it is you getting upset about challenges to your assertions about StarCraft. I'm too tired of stupid shit like this to go back into your topics and "nitpick" you to death, and I don't really care, the people here who are admirable of enough to be subjective will see it for themselves, and that's all I care about.

Okay. But it was never about subjectivity. I was simply annoyed that no one could discuss a book without accusing me of bias. Who cares if I'm biased? I just wanted to talk about a book.

Your attempt to use my own word usage...

That's an assumption. I had no idea that's how you normally talk, nor was it an attempt to copy you.

Look, you were just getting all personal when Ragnarok just wanted to talk Starcraft. It's not fun for you to browbeat others. If you don't agree with them on Starcraft, okay. But don't fling accusations and names on other people for a franchise you claim not to care about.

No, I'm not mad at you or have any grudge of any kind. I came to this forums really wanting to like you because I saw an intelligent person in your posts. But your intelligence does not give you the excuse for this. So what if we make wrong points or misword our opinions? The world isn't going to blow up. I still like you, but your emotions seems so tied to everyone acknowledging your intelligence. You're smart, alright? You're fine.

And if you're worried about underlying messages, here it is: it's really annoying when you call rag autistic. My posting was simply in support of you not insulting someone when they disagree with you.

[TheEconomist]

Look, you were just getting all personal when Ragnarok just wanted to talk Starcraft.

You really refuse to read. I was getting "personal" because on at least ten different occasions Ragnarok will bait me into writing multiple huge walls of text only to turn around a few days later and ask me the same question again as if I didn't already counter his argument. Same thing with his misinterpretations. I correct them time after time but he keeps coming right back with them. It's frustrating to waste my time on something and then be bombarded with the same misinterpretation again. I respond to stupidity so that it will be removed from my sight or at least not back to smack me in the face next week. If that doesn't happen, I refuse to waste anymore of my time.

I was simply annoyed that no one could discuss a book without accusing me of bias. Who cares if I'm biased? I just wanted to talk about a book.

That's quite the reduction there. How can you work on your social interactions if you're always going to turn yourself into the victim like that?

That's an assumption. I had no idea that's how you normally talk, nor was it an attempt to copy you.

If I had a dollar for every time someone denied that ...

I came to this forums really wanting to like you because I saw an intelligent person in your posts.

No, you saw someone who you thought would give complex arguments that you are unwilling to do to back up your own ideas. When I agree with you, you lavish praise. When I disagree with you, you get belligerent very quickly.

The world isn't going to blow up.

It's not going to blow up if I hurt someone's feelings either, so what the fuck?

I still like you, but your emotions seems so tied to everyone acknowledging your intelligence.

it is a shame you are so new that you couldn't possibly know how utterly stupid and wrong this statement is. I spent about four years being mocked by the majority of this forum for my economic predictions that were proven true. I did not get upset, I did no get emotional, I did not care if my "intelligence" was acknowledge. I simply said we shall wait and see. I have shown infinitely more restraint than you have for one hundredth of the time in the face of a fraction of the opposition I have faced. Quiet hypocrite.

And if you're so concerned about underlying messages, it's simply this: "don't browbeat others."

Why? Why not punish stupidity? Do you really want your children to live in a world where there is so much unchecked stupidity? We're already living in a world where the response that people have towards the knowledge that Chinese has stolen billions of dollars of information and personal information that could be used to dangerous purposes, is to collectively complain about the wording of the news caster (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ox-news-718957). Everything is already based against the standard of how something makes people feel instead of what effects it will have. We worry more about the methods and tone used to argue a point than the validity of the point itself or the detriment to the world if ignored. And then people wonder why nothing gets done and Western civilization is going to shit.

Every meaningful change in human thought was brought about by aggressive confrontation with the weaknesses of counter arguments. Make no mistake. I, and a few others, are the only ones debating correctly. To deny that is to admit to your own infection of the sickness plaguing the world today.

You're a fan of the founding fathers of America. Here's something you should take to heart:

http://www.jeffersonquotes.com/2012/...ly-weapon.html

“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson

[Nissa]

Okay. If that's how you feel, I'll leave it alone. I don't really feel like arguing with you. As is, it was pretty peaceful in this thread before the name calling came out.

That, and I really wasn't copying you. Honest. It's a common expression.

[TheEconomist]

I could say the same thing about your topics. Next time you want to comment on my personality or my actions, look at your own first.

[Nissa]

Yeah well, sometimes it was provoked. Not that that's an excuse, but yeah.

[TheEconomist]

Except it wasn't. I've been provoked infinitely more than you have and remained calm. But I can't remember you ever being provoked. I can remember some others taking "harsher tones" but that means nothing. If you are offended, it means you are too sensitive. Nothing more.

[ragnarok]

Tell me, what is a non-intellectual, non-professional youth with very little real world experience that never tests his predictive capabilities against a universal, unbiased measure going to tell me about subjective, ideological concepts? When you are able to predict global changes years before the most brilliant people in the world and generate large sum of money BASED SOLELY on your understanding of how the world works and your ability to be objective with data, then I'll take your opinion more seriously. But, from what I've seen, all you've ever done is spout with ignorant certainty the truths of cliche, overused phrases as if you were bestowing upon me some great knowledge. Typical of small minds. Cue emotional denial.

I really do need a vacation from the internet. Fucking idiots everywhere.

Last I checked, you are NOT the world's most brilliant man. My theories are merely what I THOUGHT Blizzard could have been thinking. More than likely, they weren't thinking that. If they weren't thinking AT ALL, then that means they're idiots and everything.

But then, to think of such things of what they MIGHT have meant is better than just to assume they're complete morons who don't know anything.

If that was the case, the SC2 series never would have even gotten off the ground AT ALL.

And don't say they're good at manipulating. Manipulation can only work so far before it loses its edge.