Either way, better than I could do.
06-02-2014, 12:42 PM
#51
Either way, better than I could do.
Rest In Peace, Old Friend.
06-02-2014, 01:51 PM
#52
Yeah, I have a lot of redneck/hillbilly family members (very diverse heritage, that), and we're all pretty awesome. I actually kinda like Duke because he kept his cool, even when Tassadar was flipping out on him. Duke shows signs of following logic instead of emotion, which I like. To be honest, he doesn't seem like a "bigot" to me, so much as he just dislikes people who aren't on his side. He never talks down any particular ethnicity, anyway.
You had me until communication, but that's okay since we've only met on the net. People are generally good at speaking or writing, not usually both unless they push themselves. My love for Aldaris comes from all the crap people talk about him. I hate labels, and I think he's better than what other people treat him as.Okay, Nissa. I'm interested in psychology, so I'll take a shot at it. (Now, if you could give me some of your favorite artwork, and some of your least favorite, it would be cool to try it the Thrawn way.)
Seems like you have this down to a science. Me, not so much.
But from what I can gather, you are fairly empathetic, kind and prone to altruism. Though Aldaris is a bit interesting; his inclusion could imply a few things. One is the (in my opinion) superficial analysis of his character, which is the cold and distant dictator of dogma, one who dislikes having authority questioned. However, Raynor and Kerrigan obviate this aspect, necessitating the deeper analysis of Aldaris' character; so, on the other hand we have Aldaris the leader who sees value in tradition, and places honor and the well-being of the collective on a high pedestal. This latter analysis would lead me to believe you may be somewhat proud, but will readily admit the errors of your ways when given proof. This of course requires effective communication skills, a trait you have.
D'aw. I like the last part. I don't hate powermongers unless they're specifically manipulative. Thing is, to get power, you have to do what people want, such as vote their way, provide a need, or something else. Only when people mess this up or create a pork system does it become trouble, and even then I'm not always filled with rage at the thought. And I despise Occupy Wall Street, as they're a bunch of brats who haven't read a single econ/history book, and could improve their lot a whole lot better by just getting a friggin' job. They're the sort of people whose discontent leads to crap like communism.I'm also guessing you're not a fan of H P Lovecraft. You dislike the selfish and the dictatorial. You may value order, but are not necessarily a stickler for the system. You hate people who crave power. I also suspect you may be the kind of person who takes up causes -- perhaps charity work, or you may follow things like Occupy Wall Street. The phrase, “Who watches the Watchmen” comes to mind; sometimes, the best way to improve the system is to work outside it. You have an innate sense of right and wrong, and have a need to go against the grain to see justice be done. You’re something of a misfit, I suppose. You’re also shy at first, perhaps seemingly mellow or quiet, but not as much as you used to be. There are lingering trust issues over an event or series of events in your life, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? But this shyness is a façade that melts away when you get to know somebody, at which point you can almost be called boisterous. You have a big heart, and you follow it. This sometimes puts you at a disadvantage in some circumstances, but you still have that need to do what you feel is best.
In other words, I don't believe in improving "the system" as much as I believe everyone should do what is right individually, and culture at large will naturally follow. Systems are for brainwashed noobs.
*rant of the day*
Wow. Lol, so wrong. One, I wish I had a fairy tale romance. Two, I wish I had a romance. Three, "the journey is more important than the destination" is a cliche I hate with my whole heart. The destination is more important than the journey, because wandering without a good place to go or proper motive is kinda dumb.That's not to say you are a creature of pure emotion. No, you use your head alongside your heart, and have a gift for impartiality. Your close friends see this and get relationship advice, whether it's of a friendly or romantic nature. You read, a lot, and admire intelligence, a quality you yourself have.
You can be quite the romantic. You are selfless and devoted, though again sometimes this gets you in trouble. You are literate, yet don’t quite expect fairy tale romance. But it’s not the destination that matters, but the journey; the continual striving for something that matters. And that makes all the difference.
Nah, the illuminati removed most of my sense of humor in the early 00s. Life's not as easygoing now, but critiquing movies is oh so enjoyable.You consider yourself a free spirit and artist, and have an insatiable need to be surrounded by creativity. Again, those who don't know you might not realize you can be excitable, but this is something your close friends cherish and admire and find contagious. You have a developed sense of humor that is sometimes self-effacing.
[qutoe]Finally, you have a problem with self-centered people. You value people who are likewise empathetic, and you're closest friends are those who have the same desire as you to "get to know" people, but on more than just a superficial level. This is something you need in life.[/quote]
Uh....not really. I want to get to know people because I want to get to know everything. I'm on an eternal quest for all the knowledge in the world, and that happens to include knowledge of people.
Pretty deep. You lost me at "occupy wall street". Lol. Anyway, the key to analyzing people using fictitious characters is to focus on what all the liked have in common, versus what the disliked have in common. It's not a perfect system, but usually if you think about it hard enough, you can figure things out. For example, Aldaris, Raynor, and Sarah Kerrigan are three characters that are labelled (accurately and inaccurately) and treated horribly, despite their own natural morality and desires for good. The Overminds, Dehaka, and Amon are all vague, monologuing, self-righteous slabs of bland. And sometimes used to indirectly slander people who believe in God.Okay, so how big of a hole have I dug myself in to?
Also, you should have noted that despite liking Protoss best, I had no hated race. If I were a more "go after the system" person as you said, I'd probably hate Zerg, or possibly Terran because they had so many tyrannical governments.
But yeah, if there's any other fandom you feel you know pretty well, you can use this same system to figure out people based on characters from that. The key is to figure out why people like their chosen characters -- either they are similar to what they chose, or their characters are someone they want to be.
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Yeah, I have a lot of redneck/hillbilly family members (very diverse heritage, that), and we're all pretty awesome. I actually kinda like Duke because he kept his cool, even when Tassadar was flipping out on him. Duke shows signs of following logic instead of emotion, which I like. To be honest, he doesn't seem like a "bigot" to me, so much as he just dislikes people who aren't on his side. He never talks down any particular ethnicity, anyway.
You had me until communication, but that's okay since we've only met on the net. People are generally good at speaking or writing, not usually both unless they push themselves. My love for Aldaris comes from all the crap people talk about him. I hate labels, and I think he's better than what other people treat him as.Okay, Nissa. I'm interested in psychology, so I'll take a shot at it. (Now, if you could give me some of your favorite artwork, and some of your least favorite, it would be cool to try it the Thrawn way.)
Seems like you have this down to a science. Me, not so much.
But from what I can gather, you are fairly empathetic, kind and prone to altruism. Though Aldaris is a bit interesting; his inclusion could imply a few things. One is the (in my opinion) superficial analysis of his character, which is the cold and distant dictator of dogma, one who dislikes having authority questioned. However, Raynor and Kerrigan obviate this aspect, necessitating the deeper analysis of Aldaris' character; so, on the other hand we have Aldaris the leader who sees value in tradition, and places honor and the well-being of the collective on a high pedestal. This latter analysis would lead me to believe you may be somewhat proud, but will readily admit the errors of your ways when given proof. This of course requires effective communication skills, a trait you have.
D'aw. I like the last part. I don't hate powermongers unless they're specifically manipulative. Thing is, to get power, you have to do what people want, such as vote their way, provide a need, or something else. Only when people mess this up or create a pork system does it become trouble, and even then I'm not always filled with rage at the thought. And I despise Occupy Wall Street, as they're a bunch of brats who haven't read a single econ/history book, and could improve their lot a whole lot better by just getting a friggin' job. They're the sort of people whose discontent leads to crap like communism.I'm also guessing you're not a fan of H P Lovecraft. You dislike the selfish and the dictatorial. You may value order, but are not necessarily a stickler for the system. You hate people who crave power. I also suspect you may be the kind of person who takes up causes -- perhaps charity work, or you may follow things like Occupy Wall Street. The phrase, “Who watches the Watchmen” comes to mind; sometimes, the best way to improve the system is to work outside it. You have an innate sense of right and wrong, and have a need to go against the grain to see justice be done. You’re something of a misfit, I suppose. You’re also shy at first, perhaps seemingly mellow or quiet, but not as much as you used to be. There are lingering trust issues over an event or series of events in your life, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? But this shyness is a façade that melts away when you get to know somebody, at which point you can almost be called boisterous. You have a big heart, and you follow it. This sometimes puts you at a disadvantage in some circumstances, but you still have that need to do what you feel is best.
In other words, I don't believe in improving "the system" as much as I believe everyone should do what is right individually, and culture at large will naturally follow. Systems are for brainwashed noobs.
*rant of the day*
Wow. Lol, so wrong. One, I wish I had a fairy tale romance. Two, I wish I had a romance. Three, "the journey is more important than the destination" is a cliche I hate with my whole heart. The destination is more important than the journey, because wandering without a good place to go or proper motive is kinda dumb.That's not to say you are a creature of pure emotion. No, you use your head alongside your heart, and have a gift for impartiality. Your close friends see this and get relationship advice, whether it's of a friendly or romantic nature. You read, a lot, and admire intelligence, a quality you yourself have.
You can be quite the romantic. You are selfless and devoted, though again sometimes this gets you in trouble. You are literate, yet don’t quite expect fairy tale romance. But it’s not the destination that matters, but the journey; the continual striving for something that matters. And that makes all the difference.
Nah, the illuminati removed most of my sense of humor in the early 00s. Life's not as easygoing now, but critiquing movies is oh so enjoyable.You consider yourself a free spirit and artist, and have an insatiable need to be surrounded by creativity. Again, those who don't know you might not realize you can be excitable, but this is something your close friends cherish and admire and find contagious. You have a developed sense of humor that is sometimes self-effacing.
Uh....not really. I want to get to know people because I want to get to know everything. I'm on an eternal quest for all the knowledge in the world, and that happens to include knowledge of people.Finally, you have a problem with self-centered people. You value people who are likewise empathetic, and you're closest friends are those who have the same desire as you to "get to know" people, but on more than just a superficial level. This is something you need in life.
Pretty deep. You lost me at "occupy wall street". Lol. Anyway, the key to analyzing people using fictitious characters is to focus on what all the liked have in common, versus what the disliked have in common. It's not a perfect system, but usually if you think about it hard enough, you can figure things out. For example, Aldaris, Raynor, and Sarah Kerrigan are three characters that are labelled (accurately and inaccurately) and treated horribly, despite their own natural morality and desires for good. The Overminds, Dehaka, and Amon are all vague, monologuing, self-righteous slabs of bland. And sometimes used to indirectly slander people who believe in God.Okay, so how big of a hole have I dug myself in to?
Also, you should have noted that despite liking Protoss best, I had no hated race. If I were a more "go after the system" person as you said, I'd probably hate Zerg, or possibly Terran because they had so many tyrannical governments.
But yeah, if there's any other fandom you feel you know pretty well, you can use this same system to figure out people based on characters from that. The key is to figure out why people like their chosen characters -- either they are similar to what they chose, or their characters are someone they want to be.
06-02-2014, 02:17 PM
#53
See, I'd disagree with you there. Well, specifically the "destination" part, though motivation is important. Many of my friends and I backpack and travel a lot, sometimes just for the hell of it. You'd be surprised at how many wonderful people you'll meet when you aren't even trying. Just a couple weeks ago, me and a friend did some freelance work for someone met on the road.Originally Posted by Nissa
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I stand vindicated.Originally Posted by Nissa
Hm, not sure we can be friends now...Originally Posted by Nissa
... but there may be hope yet!Originally Posted by Nissa
Noted.Originally Posted by Nissa
Ah. See, I knew there would be some discrepancy between your online persona and offline, but failed to pinpoint the correct area. Most often, one of the "loudest" parts about a person's online persona clashes, usually violently, with their in-persona personality. This stems from someone either compensating or trying to almost reimagine themselves.Originally Posted by Nissa
Have you actually been to an Occupy encampment and mingled with the people, not as a crowd but as individuals? Oftentimes you'll find just the opposite. I took part of Occupy at several encampments across New England and DC. The breadth and depth of the knowledge was be staggering. And many of them, like me, had long-term, stable jobs. Sure, the message was incoherent, almost to the extreme, but when you peel back the layers you'll find that the common consensus is to make a world a better place for everyone.Originally Posted by Nissa
For the record, I am not a communist, socialist or capitalist. Rather, I lean towards a blending of all three. So many people fail to realize that the United States' economic system is already a blend in many ways.
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Aaand sold.
Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow
Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?
The road's goal is the Origin of Being
But be wary through what thickets it winds.
06-02-2014, 08:40 PM
#54
I'm not saying that attitude is wrong if you just like to go hiking or on car trips, because in those cases, your destination is
the journey. I meant like in an overall life philosophy sort of way, you can find yourself in really stupid places if you don't care about where you're going. If you have a goal, you know what to do next, generally.
Well, I meant what I said in a more general way. Often people who are fun to talk to in person are awful writers. Like William Shatner and Sean Astin. You can listen to them all day, but their books are melodramatic and scatterbrained respectively. It's just the nature of how speaking and writing are different as forms of communication.Ah. See, I knew there would be some discrepancy between your online persona and offline, but failed to pinpoint the correct area. Most often, one of the "loudest" parts about a person's online persona clashes, usually violently, with their in-persona personality. This stems from someone either compensating or trying to almost reimagine themselves.
Peel back layers? Pssht. I don't believe every single one of them is an idiot, but this goes back to the journey vs. destination thing. If they had no clear goal or message for the White House/Congress/whoever to respond to, then all they are doing is wasting their time, and there's no reason to listen to them. If there are individuals as intelligent as you say, then surely they would take action that would result in some sort of specific change.Have you actually been to an Occupy encampment and mingled with the people, not as a crowd but as individuals? Oftentimes you'll find just the opposite. I took part of Occupy at several encampments across New England and DC. The breadth and depth of the knowledge was be staggering. And many of them, like me, had long-term, stable jobs. Sure, the message was incoherent, almost to the extreme, but when you peel back the layers you'll find that the common consensus is to make a world a better place for everyone.
For the record, I am not a communist, socialist or capitalist. Rather, I lean towards a blending of all three. So many people fail to realize that the United States' economic system is already a blend in many ways.
General discontent in a pretty good society with no idea at all how to make a better society is a ripe way to have very intelligent scumbags take over politically. People like Lenin can play the unhappy masses like a violin, causing them to make the very decisions that bring very literal tyranny to their country.
Yeah, I know our economic system is a bit stupid right now. That's why we need to fix it from all the socialist bunk.
Dearie doll, please do read an actual book on communism before you go calling yourself one. Seriously, communism is a really excellent system for putting the evil in power, and they build it on the backs of people such as you -- the ones you believe that good can come of it. You're rather like Trotsky, to them. First they use you, then they throw you out and kill you. I think I'm going to call you "the Menshevik" from now on.
I never trust anyone who believes they can "make the world a better place". There's no magical button that can improve all of the world all at once. I only believe people that say they can "make New York a better place" or "make hospice a better place" or otherwise help a specific group or place with direct actions they have taken as individuals. People who try to "change the world" generally do so with ideas. At best, an idea is inspiring, and at worst, it's a foothold for tyrants (at typical, it's a point for intellectuals to bicker over and annoy each other). Ideas do not put food in mouths or shoes on feet. What we must do to help "the world" is change what specific places we have love and ability for.
06-02-2014, 09:52 PM
#55
Spent some time thinking about this only to got beaten to the punch by Vok. Here was my attempt for what it's worth:
I think I can take a crack at this but I'm no expert so there won't be any of that fancy MB typing stuff or any real depth to the analysis.
Your choice of characters, when taken altogether speak of a strong sense for ethics and morality. This becomes quite evident when all your least favourite characters have the commonality of not exhibiting or even being capable of ethical or morality based decisions. Since all these least favourite characters are selfish and self-righteous, this maybe a particular pet peeve of yours. Either that, or you just feel they're boring and are not dynamic enough.
Although the least favourite characters indicate a possible dislike of authoratative personalities, this is countered by your choice of Aldaris. The difference is that Aldaris' motivation is due to a higher ideal (and that he admits and willing to learn from mistakes) whereas the authoratative nature from the least favourite characters are due to base/animal instincts which you seem to want to deny. This informs your choice of Protoss as your favourite race because you admire their lofty nature and the idealism that they bring as opposed to the Terrans who are represented in this universe as being more low-brow, unsophisticated, dirty.
That you have two Terrans as part of your favourite characters suggests that you are a humanist because those two are the only examples of humanity at their best when compared to the other human characters like opportunistic and craven Duke or the manipulative and conniving Mengsk. Aldaris fits into the scheme of a humanist leaning as authoritarian personalities are part of the human experience as much as the rebellious nature of Raynor and the concept of loyalty exhibited by human Kerrigan because they are all in the pursuit of bettering oneself. As such, the enforced/limited one-note personalities and the villainy-inclined bents of the least favourite characters support this as well. Either that, or you chose Raynor and human Kerrigan because you have a penchant for romance or the potential for it. That you specify Kerrigan's terran self only may hint at some denial and dislike regarding the darker aspects of human nature (never forget that she is an assassin afterall!).
It is somewhat peculiar that you do not state a "Hated race" when most of your disliked characters are Zerg, especially when you specified the Overmind twice. This hints at some cognitive dissonance in your values or it may be an attempt to make yourself seem agreeable/open and or not confrontational because "hating" is stronger/worse than general "dislike". Maybe it
Yes, that's right! That is indeed ME on the right.
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06-02-2014, 11:21 PM
#56
Very good. Wow. Right on both dislikes, by the way.
I actually love rednecks and other unsophisticated people, but this is a really good estimation.Although the least favourite characters indicate a possible dislike of authoratative personalities, this is countered by your choice of Aldaris. The difference is that Aldaris' motivation is due to a higher ideal (and that he admits and willing to learn from mistakes) whereas the authoratative nature from the least favourite characters are due to base/animal instincts which you seem to want to deny. This informs your choice of Protoss as your favourite race because you admire their lofty nature and the idealism that they bring as opposed to the Terrans who are represented in this universe as being more low-brow, unsophisticated, dirty.
"Humanist", to me, has extremely negative connotations, but perhaps you're associating a different connotation with it. I don't believe in human idealism (we kinda suck), but I do think we can all contribute something, so that's close enough.That you have two Terrans as part of your favourite characters suggests that you are a humanist because those two are the only examples of humanity at their best when compared to the other human characters like opportunistic and craven Duke or the manipulative and conniving Mengsk. Aldaris fits into the scheme of a humanist leaning as authoritarian personalities are part of the human experience as much as the rebellious nature of Raynor and the concept of loyalty exhibited by human Kerrigan because they are all in the pursuit of bettering oneself. As such, the enforced/limited one-note personalities and the villainy-inclined bents of the least favourite characters support this as well. Either that, or you chose Raynor and human Kerrigan because you have a penchant for romance or the potential for it. That you specify Kerrigan's terran self only may hint at some denial and dislike regarding the darker aspects of human nature (never forget that she is an assassin afterall!).
And lol, I really like Mengsk and Duke. I was so hard to pick favorites, and I was tempted to include both of these guys. Maybe I should have.
Uh, well, you were right when you said all the disliked characters are bland. They just happen to be Zerg. Thing is, Zerg are animals. They don't know what they're doing. I can't feel any hatred for them. Well, not without being in the Starcraft universe, anyway.It is somewhat peculiar that you do not state a "Hated race" when most of your disliked characters are Zerg, especially when you specified the Overmind twice. This hints at some cognitive dissonance in your values or it may be an attempt to make yourself seem agreeable/open and or not confrontational because "hating" is stronger/worse than general "dislike". Maybe it
Overall, this is really good. You could probably take someone else's favorites and do a good job of analyzing them. And pfft, it's not like I was great at guessing everyone's MBTI. You seem like you would be better at guessing that than I would. You should try. Well, if you feel like it. It can be work thinking about this stuff too much.
06-04-2014, 10:04 AM
#57
I liked Duke because he was a Confederate asshole. :P
"You damn fringe world yokels are all alike. Don't know where your loyalties lie."He never talks down any particular ethnicity, anyway.
06-04-2014, 10:17 AM
#58
"Y'all have a reeeal good day naw, y'hear?"
Ugh. I hate that guy.
Aaand sold.
Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow
Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?
The road's goal is the Origin of Being
But be wary through what thickets it winds.
06-04-2014, 11:37 AM
#59
I liked Duke. Sure he was a hick, but he felt like a whole, fleshed-out character with real history and motives. In contrast to some of the other more one-dimensional stereotype characters.
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I liked Duke. Sure he was a hick, but he felt like a whole, fleshed-out character with real history and motives. In contrast to some of the other more one-dimensional stereotype characters.
06-04-2014, 12:35 PM
#60
I stand corrected. But it's funny, though. We in this world would call Duke a yokel, and here he is using it on other people.