Xel'Naga - Universe Origins

[ragnarok]

Well, I remember reading somewhere, I'm pretty sure it's the manual, that Khas found his stuff in old records of the Xel'Naga. Like it was lost philosophies from their originators that would make life make sense.

As for my Xel'Nagan theories...it's more like headcanon. I have this story in my head about a bunch of ancient scientists who are influenced by Duran -- who is really some equivalent being of immense power -- to create the perfect race. They start in on the Protoss, and one among them, who I call Cassandra, really loves the Protoss and spends a lot of time designing and influencing them, as well as creating the Khala. However, when the Protoss turn out to be failures (In everyone's mind but Duran's), Cassandra is the scapegoat, and she is forced into one of their temples to be destroyed. Think of it like the temple on Shakuras. However, instead of being destroyed, she was warped to a far off city she built to provide a shelter for the Protoss should they ever be in dire need. She remains there to this day, aging but very slowly, and also losing her mind from being alone.

Duran then manipulates the Xel'Naga into creating the Zerg, but then engineering the Zerg to destroy his would be allies. He wants to create the perfect race, which merges the Zerg and Protoss. The hybrids are not there to destroy the universe, but to make it more beautiful. Animals trust them, and plants grow where they would not under the hybrids' influence. However, the hybrids expect total submission from their inferiors (anyone who is not them), leaving the humans, 'Toss, and Zerg to stop them from turning the universe into their paradise.

Well, that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.

The main problem is that the Xel'Naga life cycle gambles too much to chance. In the DT Saga Twilight, Zamara explained that it would take the two Xel'Naga creations millennia just to find each other (if left on their natural) course.

And even then there's no guarantee it'd work. That's probably why the Xel'Naga ensured the Overmind had no free will, in the event it refused the merging process.

[Visions of Khas]

Well, Ragnorak, we can always attribute that to Amon's doing. Maybe Duran was once a Xel'Naga servant who was meant to subtly guide the Protoss and Zerg together, but he became corrupted by Amon.

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Well, Ragnorak, we can always attribute that to Amon's doing. Maybe Duran was once a Xel'Naga servant who was meant to subtly guide the Protoss and Zerg together, but he became corrupted by Amon.

[ragnarok]

Well, Ragnorak, we can always attribute that to Amon's doing. Maybe Duran was once a Xel'Naga servant who was meant to subtly guide the Protoss and Zerg together, but he became corrupted by Amon.

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Well, Ragnorak, we can always attribute that to Amon's doing. Maybe Duran was once a Xel'Naga servant who was meant to subtly guide the Protoss and Zerg together, but he became corrupted by Amon.

You spelled my SN wrong.

Anyways that's another frustration about him. We don't even know WHERE he came from. A villain cannot pop out of nowhere and for no reason, you know.

[Gradius]

The main problem is that the Xel'Naga life cycle gambles too much to chance. In the DT Saga Twilight, Zamara explained that it would take the two Xel'Naga creations millennia just to find each other (if left on their natural) course.

Longer than that Ragnorak. It's supposed to take place over evolutionary time scales IIRC. Millions of years.

[ragnarok]

Longer than that Ragnorak. It's supposed to take place over evolutionary time scales IIRC. Millions of years.

All right, I'll take a look at that book again.

But the point is, how are the Xel'Naga even sure that the two species will REALLY merge as they hoped? Or has the gamble simply "lucked out" all the previous times in the past?

[Turalyon]

I'm surprised the Xel'Naga still even exist after all this time if they take this long and have so much trouble just to have sex.

[Visions of Khas]

I'm surprised the Xel'Naga still even exist after all this time if they take this long and have so much trouble just to have sex.

Dating must be a real bitch of a conundrum in their society.

So I wonder if the Hybrid are a combination then of Protoss Essence and Zerg Form? The exact reverse of what they were aiming for. What might that mean, exactly? Zerg form is mutable (represented by the variety of Hybrid types?), and Protoss essence has been marred, but was communal in nature...

[Nissa]

I'm very against the idea of the Xel'Naga using the Protoss and Zerg as a part of their reproduction cycle. For one thing, ew. For another, they made the P/Z by mutating species on planets, and those original species have different DNA from them, meaning if they need other species to reproduce, no generation is going to be like another. Unless the Xel'Naga have the power to make a species exactly like themselves, in which case it seems odd they need another species to reproduce at all.

Of course, if the Xel'Naga themselves are sort of Zerg-like, in that they bring other species into the fold, that's pretty interesting. It's like they take the best of every race and make them into their image. Huh.

[Visions of Khas]

I'm very against the idea of the Xel'Naga using the Protoss and Zerg as a part of their reproduction cycle. For one thing, ew. For another, they made the P/Z by mutating species on planets, and those original species have different DNA from them, meaning if they need other species to reproduce, no generation is going to be like another. Unless the Xel'Naga have the power to make a species exactly like themselves, in which case it seems odd they need another species to reproduce at all.

And yet both species have a means of incorporating the other. They Zerg innately absorb the genetic material of alien craetures to bolster their own ability; and Protoss can merge with Archon Warp, an ability that may extend to other psychic creatures.

In other words, Space Magic!

[ragnarok]

I'm very against the idea of the Xel'Naga using the Protoss and Zerg as a part of their reproduction cycle. For one thing, ew. For another, they made the P/Z by mutating species on planets, and those original species have different DNA from them, meaning if they need other species to reproduce, no generation is going to be like another. Unless the Xel'Naga have the power to make a species exactly like themselves, in which case it seems odd they need another species to reproduce at all.

Of course, if the Xel'Naga themselves are sort of Zerg-like, in that they bring other species into the fold, that's pretty interesting. It's like they take the best of every race and make them into their image. Huh.

But you DON'T KNOW if the Xel'Naga are Zerg like. Remember, Zurvan said it himself that Amon desired the Zerg strength to steal essence. This seems to imply that the Xel'Naga themselves did not have this power. Or at the very least, did not have this power on such a magnitude.