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    Default Re: Can anyone tell me where this info is from and if it's canon or not?

    To shutdown gravity, however, i would require to enter a password, two keys turned at the same time, or something like that, unless the grav. generator is as unsafe as a nuclear reactor, but then you must choose the lesser evil.
    That's pure speculation of how systems function 500 years into a fictional future. For all we know, pure.Wasted's suggestion has just as much merit as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandonetho View Post
    That's pure speculation of how systems function 500 years into a fictional future. For all we know, pure.Wasted's suggestion has just as much merit as yours.
    Well, it's common sense that you don't put such a critical equipment under unreachable, automatic, non-overridable control, specially if you could have good reasons to shutdown it manually, so it's hardly pure speculation, but everyone can have it's own opinions, and i don't really care a lot about who's "more right". So, just believe what you want to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norfindel View Post
    Well, it's common sense that you don't put such a critical equipment under unreachable, automatic, non-overridable control
    Unless, you know, you don't want somebody to sabotage it by clicking a button. The USSR didn't have any enemies that wanted it literally wiped off the face of the planet. Terrans have plenty, all of whom have shown a great ability to be where they're not supposed to be and do what they're not supposed to do.

    Leaving a button lying around in plain sight is asking for trouble.

    but everyone can have it's own opinions, and i don't really care a lot about who's "more right". So, just believe what you want to believe.
    For the record, if I "believe what I want to believe," that directly contradicts all of your concerns with the Banshee... so... what we believe is kind of important to that discussion.
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    Well, it's common sense that you don't put such a critical equipment under unreachable, automatic, non-overridable control, specially if you could have good reasons to shutdown it manually, so it's hardly pure speculation
    Common sense? So here we have common sense enter the argument, when you decide to argue about the Banshee messing with the lore, and you leave out the fact that common sense doesn't co-exist with things like the Viking and the Thor. Good job.

    Face the facts, the Banshee will be more realistic than many of the other Terran units, if you want to complain, complain about the Thor. Like how it's impossible to even make one.

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    One point, since wea re dealing with these unusual gravity generators, wea re free to make up rules for them.

    so

    Grav Generator uses
    1. Internal Gravity simulator
    Artificial gravity in large space vessels BC/Sci Vessel (limitation=gravity only in restricted area, energy consumed as things fall in the field)) Doesn't affect the Vehicle itself though

    2. Platform Gravity field: self sustaining.. ie no power consumed, once started they continue and then slowly degrade... there is no power switch, indeed, shutting these down is Incredibly difficult and dangerous... but don't worry, the field naturally decays after 10,000-100,000 years depending on make and model.
    Provides a side effect of preventing gasses from escaping, and even tends to trap interstellar gas

    3. External Gravity Simulator... can simulate a gravitational field, causing the Entire vehicle to move... Limitation: only works if there is a large mass nearby (usually only a few meters away) to direct the Gravity Generator at (mass=planet/space platform/very large space vessel)

    #3 explains
    1. Why standard Vultures don't "fly" more than a few meters off the ground (they just have a reversable gravity generator)
    2. How forces would operate on a space platform without Gravity generators

    #3 would explain Banshees operating on
    space platforms that were at least partially complete
    Any planet with atmosphere

    And I think it might be interesting if they did have a space platform/planetary mission where you couldn't use Banshees (perhaps to encourage you to use the Vikings GtG)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandonetho View Post
    Common sense? So here we have common sense enter the argument, when you decide to argue about the Banshee messing with the lore, and you leave out the fact that common sense doesn't co-exist with things like the Viking and the Thor. Good job.

    Face the facts, the Banshee will be more realistic than many of the other Terran units, if you want to complain, complain about the Thor. Like how it's impossible to even make one.
    Ok, if common sense cannot be used in a conversation, then what's the point? Are we supposed to just throw random phrases, or something like that?

    Also, they can make a Battlecruiser fly, why cannot they use the same to make the Thor walk? Of course, it's probably far from cost-effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by pure.Wasted View Post
    Unless, you know, you don't want somebody to sabotage it by clicking a button. The USSR didn't have any enemies that wanted it literally wiped off the face of the planet. Terrans have plenty, all of whom have shown a great ability to be where they're not supposed to be and do what they're not supposed to do.

    Leaving a button lying around in plain sight is asking for trouble.
    There's something called a lock, it's used to keep unauthorized personnel out of critical installations. Security too. Specially security.,

    There's also something called machine. They need maintenance.

    The USSR didn't have enemies? Yeah...

    I suppose nobody has enemies, then, because all nuclear reactors can be shutdown, right?
    Oh, wait! Maybe it could be that it's better to have security instead of a reactor that cannot be shutdown in case of emergency?


    Quote Originally Posted by pure.Wasted View Post
    For the record, if I "believe what I want to believe," that directly contradicts all of your concerns with the Banshee... so... what we believe is kind of important to that discussion.
    Or maybe it's that there isn't too much else to discuss about this matter. I said several times that the only thing that bothered me, is that Blizzard didn't bothered to work more closely with the writers to make sure their lore don't contradicts itself, that's all.

    If you have grav. generators in almost all military units, it's because gravity loss is common enough to be of concern.

    If you have an atmospheric ship, it would be better to not show it flying in space platforms, but only because the previous lore existed. Had the grav. generators be reliable enough, that wouldn't be an issue at all.

    In fact, it doesn't bothers me that much, it's more like: "well, that could make more sense".

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