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    From our perspective, Kerrigan's actions were definitely unjustifiable and indefensible. She called on prospective Brood Mother allies to lay waste to entire worlds simply to test them. She eradicated a Protoss research colony simply to stay under the radar of the distant Golden Armada threat. And she admits that everything she's wrought will come back to bite her in the ass one day, but the Swarm distances her enough from the slaughter that she can afford to not care. It isn't until she faces it in person that she begins to consider the ramifications; it's only when she's made to think about her actions -- when confronted by Warfield, when being scrutinized by Raynor and Valerian -- that she realizes all of this is going to come back one day and bite her in the ass.

    And you know what? That's a very human thing to do.

    We don't look at generals and politicians today and consider their self-serving actions as evil, and neither do they. Perhaps when confronted with the face of bystanders will they begin to rethink their decisions. Raynor represented some of the best qualities of humanity, and Kerrigan distinguished herself in HotS by representing some of the worst.

    We still don't really know what sort of creatures the Xel'Naga were. We view preservation of life as being a good thing, and yet the Xel'Naga were more than content to leave the Voice in the Darkness imprisoned for thousands of years, a fate possibly worse than death. Moreover, death is a natural part of existence; attempting to circumvent that, seeking immortality, is typically seen as a good thing, but eternal preservation can lead to stagnation and arrogance, too. And really, who likes the person who says "They know best"? Finally, we don't know how the Artanis- or Zeratul-aspect will influence the mentality of the final creature.

    I still see the fusion of Kerrigan and a Protoss character being possible.
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    I still see the fusion of Kerrigan and a Protoss character being possible.
    Sadly, I do to. I can argue all day about how that would be stupid or against the lore but, ultimately, that means nothing at all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    I anticipate Kerrigan fusing with either Artanis or Zeratul in order to herald the first of a new generation of Xel'Naga and to defeat Amon. (I even have a few sketches of what it might look like. I need to scan those and display them in the SC Art thread. :P ) This would probably lead to a giant leap in the Xel'Naga lifecycle, as a third race is integrated into the mix (humanity), acting as a counterbalance to the corruption present in the other two races.
    As the others have pointed out, Kerrigan is hardly a paragon of moral purity. Even with the question of morality placed aside, she is the most unbalanced (not talking about gameplay - but she's that there, too) Terran character to be chosen for such a thing - there's equal chance that she'll corrupt the Xel'Naga mixture than give it anything in the way of a counterbalance. If the "perfect Xel'Naga recipe" needed "humanity" to be "better", any other human (except Kerrigan because there is also the likelihood that the Zerg part of her could also be seen as a corruption of her base pure humanity, too) could fit the profile of a paragon of flawed and raw humanity. Also, the Xel'Naga have nothing to gain from having Kerrigan's "badness" integrated into it because it had already expressed itself in the form of Amon. There were perhaps many more like him when the Xel'Naga were still around, too.

    Finally, I don't see what all the fuss is for trying to achieve this "Xel'Naga state of mind". If they were already "fundamentally wrong" to begin with, I don't see how including more "wrongness" would somehow make it "right". The Xel'Naga state of mind is (like the Overminds quest for perfection) an idealised and flawed concept that only leads to more misery in the end. A happy ending would be if the 3 races realised the pretentiousness of the whole Xel'Naga idea, willingly break the cycle of Xel'Naga forever seeing it as a good thing and then embrace their flaws by commencing to wail on each other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Hopefully LotV will shed light on what exactly happened on Zerus.
    Much like how they went on to explain the ramifications of all the other non-Kerrigan stuff that we did after WoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon
    Finally, I don't see what all the fuss is for trying to achieve this "Xel'Naga state of mind". If they were already "fundamentally wrong" to begin with, I don't see how including more "wrongness" would somehow make it "right".
    I see the problem here, we're working on two different mindsets here. You're using reason and logic; I'm trying to follow Blizzard Logic (TM).
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

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    I'm trying to follow Blizzard Logic
    You poor brave soul.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    I see the problem here, we're working on two different mindsets here. You're using reason and logic; I'm trying to follow Blizzard Logic (TM).
    Gee, if we ever needed a perfect example of an oxymoron, I think you've just found it. In any case, I'd rather replace the bolded with "Insane Troll logic" since that fits better. At the least, I would hope it would warn people on the futility of even trying to follow such a thing.
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    Haha, I'm not trying to troll. Simply looking at the decisions Blizzard has made about developing StarCraft and their other games lately, and projecting into the future. Hence the " ".

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    Haha, I'm not trying to troll. Simply looking at the decisions Blizzard has made about developing StarCraft and their other games lately, and projecting into the future. Hence the " ".
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    I see the problem here, we're working on two different mindsets here. You're using reason and logic; I'm trying to follow Blizzard Logic (TM).
    And what's wrong with trying to follow Blizzard logic? I tried that quite a bit on the battlenet forums.

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