already completed the campaign makes me think that the real heart of the swarm is Abathur (slightly Zagara) WHILE Kerrigan becomes more like the brain
you think?
04-08-2013, 12:17 AM
#1
already completed the campaign makes me think that the real heart of the swarm is Abathur (slightly Zagara) WHILE Kerrigan becomes more like the brain
you think?
04-10-2013, 01:12 PM
#2
well, clarify the purpose of this topic, the story has been good (some disappointments: lacking use old units, optional more mutations and more information about units) zerg.
I'm neutral with the arc of Zerus, here is where I felt, was due solved an important point,> which is the heart of the swarm? <. although already discussed the meaning of being a Zerg. but No talk of that ubiquitous "voice of the will of the swarm swarm", which even Kerrigan was submitted. an echo like the overmind, overriding directive swarm.
Kerrigan despite its superficial change does not seem to dive into this aspect completely zerg, Kerrigan even in the end apart from his concern for the swarm, there is a human motivation. abathur at all times zerg expresses the ideal: perfection, evolution and unity (the voice of the swarm), even zagara wanting to kill all the terrans to end his loneliness
the question is: Kerrigan is the heart of the swarm or prison for destructive instinct. this has not been clear enough Kerrigan is cruel to take as their own behavior zerg but want to give a chance for humanity.
04-11-2013, 05:49 AM
#3
Can Abathur be classed as "true" Zerg when the Zerus mission establishes that the "true" Zerg are the so-called "Primal Zerg"? Abathur was a creation of the Overmind and since it is heavily implied that the Overmind was a creation of Amon (and not the Xel'Naga in general), one is led to believe that all the Zerg that we have ever known up to this point are just a corruption of the "true" Zerg.
HotS not only completes WoL's work of throwing the Overmind under the bus it also potentially undermines the whole Zerg race as we currently know them. Currently, the only "true" Zerg happens to be a part of Kerrigan... and she's part Terran. Makes a lot sense, doesn't it?
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04-11-2013, 06:49 AM
#4
The primal zerg are the primal zerg. There's nothing "true" about them, only by their own definition. By the same logic, only Earth humans are "true" humans, or only Khalai are "true" protoss, or only "insert elf kindred here from media of choice" is the "true" elf kindred as opposed to "offshoot elf kindred from same media," because the idea of racial offshoots in sci-fi and fantasy goes back a long way. If anyone's being thrown under a bus it's arguably the primal zerg themselves since they're effectively intergrated into the Swarm.
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04-11-2013, 08:15 AM
#5
As far as I'm concerned it's a simple matter (well, maybe not simple) of divergent evolution. Two distinct branches of zerg exist. If the Primals are "True" zerg, they're not necessarily stronger for it.
Aaand sold.
Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow
Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?
The road's goal is the Origin of Being
But be wary through what thickets it winds.
04-11-2013, 09:07 AM
#6
Well, not quite. The Swarm zerg are more a divergent branch. Basically goes insectoid zerg-primal zerg-Swarm zerg, though the primal zerg do their own diverging while the Swarm zerg are doing their own thing out in the galaxy.
And that is why on the wiki I'm still wondering whether the primal zerg should be categorized as a separate species or not.![]()
04-11-2013, 10:15 AM
#7
If we're going to be technical about it;
I'd probably have two articles; one on the Zerg Swarm and another on the Primals.Divergent evolution is the accumulation of differences between groups which can lead to the formation of new species, usually a result of diffusion of the same species to different and isolated environments which blocks the gene flow among the distinct populations allowing differentiated fixation of characteristics through genetic drift and natural selection.
Aaand sold.
Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow
Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?
The road's goal is the Origin of Being
But be wary through what thickets it winds.
04-11-2013, 04:44 PM
#8
Oh there's two articles. It's just a question of categorization. So far the primal zerg are in the "Category: Zerg" category, as in, something integral to the zerg themselves. I'm inclined to make sub-sections of their packs and strains rather than just lump them in with the "zerg broods" and "zerg breeds" categories as well, considering how they operate on a different level. Course someone might beat me to it.
HotS-so many edits, so little time.
04-12-2013, 04:25 AM
#9
Yeah, I'd like to think so too... if only the game itself actually points itself in that same direction. With the game conveniently informing us that the Primals are so powerful, nobly savage and actually having the ability to make Kerrigan an even more powerful/ better Queen of Blades than she was before coupled with the condemnation that anything the Overmind touched was just a corrupted abomination and therefore weak (especially when it's revealed to be solely a creation by Amon and not the Xel'naga in general), it's hard not to think that the Primals are what the "true" (if one could ever classify such a thing) form of Zerg that the Xel'Naga envisaged in the first place to continue their cycle.
They're not that well established anyway in HotS or anywhere else for that matter, being nothing more than a serviceable plot device, so it won't make as much mess throwing the Primals under the bus.![]()
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04-12-2013, 11:50 PM
#10
The Psi Destroyer also helped the notion that the Swarm were weaker Zerg. I really hated the Psi Destroyer.
Zeratul: I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...
Aldaris: Did not! That doesn't even make sense!
Zeratul: Shut up, I totally did!