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    In a more on-topic note, I think the oracle's pulsar will remain closer to 20 than 15. Too much of a nerf and the unit's fragility becomes an issue too quickly.

    As for playing as a Terran, their new units are extremely situational and placement specific. The hellbat is also fairly limited in its usages. Mines have more uses, but the current form makes some uses very much the risk/reward scenario, i.e. the cost of the self inflicted wounds (cost of repair or replacement) plus the build cost has to be less than the replacement cost of kills.
    I am a master tactician. It is my execution that keeps getting me killed.

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    My one impression of the Beta so far is that the in-game UI has been improved. Everything feels more pleasant to click and do. It remembers me of Diablo 3 with all its click pleasantness.

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    I had the opposite impression although that's probably because I'm not used to it yet.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProgramer View Post
    It is a great unit. The micro it demands to attack it with it's charging mechanic is interesting, and without it the Protoss will have no moderatley cheap air unit that hits air and ground.
    Redesign, not remove... And interesting units that is basically useless is no good. It is useless because on a pro level, there are barely few openers and strategies that you can do with them, while it costs a lot, and is countered easily by every race, that you feel just like wasting minerals and gas on that unit. It also overlaps with Tempests as other have stated already.

    They can also turn this unit into another interesting unit that will have different role and will do things better.
    "Living for the Swarm!"

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    My first view is that swarm host are imba if a good player uses them.

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    Throwing in some thoughts too for what it's worth. Keep in mind that these are relatively initial thoughts.

    *Viper: Rarely seen it used. When I have seen it used, it doesn't strike me as being particuarly useful. I know they have different roles, but in a way, it strikes me as being reminiscent of the corrupter. Air units that move in swarms, only the corrupter is actually useful.

    *Swarm host: A very effective unit and, to its credit, very 'zergy' too IMO. They're hard to counter, but honestly, mowing down locusts as they come is just too enjoyable for me to complain.

    *Hellbat: You know, I can't help but feel it would be more effective if the Warhound was still in the game. We'd have the Hellbat for short-range, Warhound for long-range, and Thors for anti-air. Without the Warhound (as I understand how it functioned at the end of the day), it feels useless in a mech army (in that fire won't do much good against mechanical armies and Vikings can handle infantry as well) and in an infantry-based army...well, there's room for it I guess, but I think it's far easier to just go marines, Marauders and medivacs rather than adding Hellbats in for extremely close-range stuff. Rarely used it, and I don't think I've ever seen it used.

    *Widow mine: I like this unit. Hard to say why, but I do feel it's got good use, especially setting it up at expansions or in choke points-even if it can't fire, it's a good warning unit.

    *Oracle: Never seen it built. Period.

    *Tempest: If I have a gripe about the Tempest, it's that I feel it's eclipsed both the void ray and carrier. Carriers are good for support, but with the Tempest's range, it's a better support weapon in itself, not to mention that due to its direct attack, it's better at a head-on fight. Void rays are good at hard targets, but when Tempests are massed, one seems to get the same result. All in all, nothing wrong with the unit itself, just feel it's eclipsed the rest of the protoss fleet.

    *Mothership core: Seen it used a lot. Think it's a good unit overall. Very much a support unit, but one that can be useful in the early game.

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    here http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/games/hots/ on the new units info the warhound doesnt appear :s he is really removed from the game?i thought it was only temporary and on beta only0.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdama View Post
    here http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/games/hots/ on the new units info the warhound doesnt appear :s he is really removed from the game?i thought it was only temporary and on beta only0.0
    It was supposed to be temporary, but they decided to remove him for good, since Terran feels like the most complete race in WoL already.
    "Living for the Swarm!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamiZ View Post
    It was supposed to be temporary, but they decided to remove him for good, since Terran feels like the most complete race in WoL already.
    Which seriously concerns me for the required LotV unit additions. What the hell else does Terran need (aside from fixing units like the Thor?). There's room for a new Barracks unit I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid View Post
    There's room for a new Barracks unit I guess...
    Not really, no. Blizzard boxed themselves into a hole with this 'new units every expansion!' idea. Balance the gameplay properly. That could mean tweaking existing units without adding any new ones at all.

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