Karune posts regarding PC, Batch 53, and YouTube (09/25/09)

[DemolitionSquid]

You cant say SL competes against itself because the decision making isnt for how you use the ability. You use the ability to get more larva. You always do that the same way. Period. Its not like if you cast SL on this hatchery you get drones but if you cast it on a spawning pool you get zerglings.

You decide what to make the larva into only after you have cast the ability. Actually its after the ability is completly over. So no, Spawn Larva does not compete against itself at all.

Does it hurt being wrong all the time? How many years has it taken to block out the headache? Read. My. Editorial. Again.

Your hypocrisy is hilarious. You say you can't examine PC unless you look at the whole picture, and yet you can't stop looking at specifics yourself.

[ArcherofAiur]

Does it hurt being wrong all the time? How many years has it taken to block out the headache? Read. My. Editorial. Again.

Your hypocrisy is hilarious. You say you can't examine PC unless you look at the whole picture, and yet you can't stop looking at specifics yourself.

Stop referencing your article like it was this authorative source. Your wrong. Spawn Larva doesnt compete with itself. You always use Spawn Larva the exact same way. You cast it on a hatchery. At that point you dont need to decide whether you want drones or units. In fact it is better to wait till the ability is completed to decide that.

Its only after the ability has completly resolved that you have the extra larva. At that point then you tell the game whether you want drones or units. That decision is not part of casting Spawn Larva any more then making zealots from the end product of PC is.

[SaharaDrac]

Read. My. Editorial. Again.

Not without some kind of hourly compensation! ZING!

Really though, the editorial was kinda neat, and your viewpoints are well known. But I don't think any of the macro mechanics are fully understood yet, so I wish you guys would stop cracking your skulls gaainst each other, It's ugly.

[DemolitionSquid]

Stop referencing your article like it was this authorative source. Your wrong. Spawn Larva doesnt compete with itself. You always use Spawn Larva the exact same way. You cast it on a hatchery.

Its only after the ability has completly resolved that you have the extra larva. At that point then you tell the game whether you want drones or units.

... and you get choice through army composition.

Which, tada, PC lacks in every single way. Like I've said hundreds of times.

[ArcherofAiur]

... and you get choice through army composition.

I use PC i get more minerals tada i can make choices about army composition. I use MULEs I get more minerals=I can make choices about army composition. The army composition choice isnt part of using the PC ability and it isnt part of using the Spawn Larva ability.

You will always use Spawn Larva in the exact same way. There is no ability that competes well with Spawn Larva.

[DemolitionSquid]

Fuck it. I give up. For real this time.

[Norfindel]

So its ok if something doesnt have allot of decision making as long as it encourages a skill (multitasking)? Thats basically been what the whole MBS War was about. lol I cant wait to see what Nicol has to say about this.

Anyway thanks for all the info. Im still digesting the rest and ill post later what I agree/disagree with.

That kind of mentality sucks. Why don't ask them why they removed Rally-mine and Single Building Selection, then? According to that they were good, right?

[Nicol Bolas]

Why don't ask them why they removed Rally-mine and Single Building Selection, then?

Based on what "Jack Doe" has said, I'm starting to get the impression that the only reason the designers added MBS and rally-mine was because anyone new to StarCraft would have instantly revolted upon seeing such things. Reviewers would have panned it as a throwback to 1998. That is, they added these, not because it was better gameplay, but because it would make their game sell better.

If this is really how the designers feel about it, then they're stupid. It's as simple as that. If they would be fine with SBS and forced mining except that this is not economically feasible in modern RTS gaming, then it's clear that they have slipped into Idolatry.

[MaybeNextTime]

Fuck it. I give up. For real this time.

Good. What Archer just described is the exact same sort of choice you have to make regarding your extra larvas.

[Gifted]

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