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    in the end of brood war the retreting fleet of the UED(united earth diertory?) was destroyed by the zergs, so this is my question have any of the UED been heard of again ? or mentioned to coming again to the SC2.
    as they sent out a MASSIV fleet to take control of the planets where it is you play that system or galexy or what they call it. and they got destroyed and werent heard of again.
    wouldent they send out a other fleet or some recon ships to check out what happend to them as I belive it said they was destroyed before they could send messages to the UED.

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    The fleet sent to Koprulu is only a minute fraction of the UED's total military strength.

    And since the journey requires cryo-stasis, I do not think it's easily and quickly made.
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    Well the total terran population is presumed to be between 150 - 450 milions ( people disagree abot that), but the UED allience (93% of all the human population) total population is presumed to be "over" 200 billions (miliards- EU), now do the math

    And the "massive fleet" that you mention was only composed of 3 division ( UED Genetic Engineers , UED Pyrotechnic Engineers , UED Security Guards ), since it primary role was exploration, to explore the "romoured" thread of aliens in that sector, and then make action based on the info. Most of the forces were enginiers and scientist , that were sent to research the aliens.

    Early on a colony was sacrificed to the zerg so that the UED could observe live zerg in action. The invaders met with early successes with the routing of the Terran Dominion and augmented themselves heavily by conscripting local forces. The majority of al the UED forces were conscripted locals, and only 3 division were ued elite troops. Since the local population was clasified as expandable.
    Even with the conscription of multiple aditional division of troops, the ued tropps - fleet still was outnumbered 4 to 1 by the Terran Dominion forcess.
    And even being heavily outnumbered, the ued elite tropps managed to defeat the terrans, defeat the zerg and beslave the overmind and scare of the protoss, not to shaby for such a small force, if you consider that only the Dominion forcess outnumbered them 4 to 1.

    They were eventually defeat and fleet the sector, but none of the ships were able to get home, and no signal or report ever reached Earth. The ued videos that you see in the BW campaign were meant for the local conscripted populoation.
    Even so isolated pockets of the remnants of the UED Expeditionary Force remain in the Koprulu Sector, hiding in places such as on Abaddon

    Now imagine if the UED would attack will all it's forces, can you imagine a fleet 1000 times larger in size and numbers packed with elite profesional trained soldiers instead of the conscript army("militia") they had previously, and with the full support and technologies of the atlas system

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    No military would send all, or even half of their total forces on some longterm distant conquest, simply because it would leave their home (earth) vulnerable.

    Personally I'd prefer that the UED just consider the Koprulu sector "not worth it", so we can focus on the stories of the colonies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ragsash View Post
    in the end of brood war the retreting fleet of the UED(united earth diertory?) was destroyed by the zergs, so this is my question have any of the UED been heard of again ? or mentioned to coming again to the SC2.
    as they sent out a MASSIV fleet to take control of the planets where it is you play that system or galexy or what they call it. and they got destroyed and werent heard of again.
    wouldent they send out a other fleet or some recon ships to check out what happend to them as I belive it said they was destroyed before they could send messages to the UED.
    They have no interest in returning as far as we know, but there are some splinter groups left. Vice Admiral Stukov is still alive - who knows what he's up to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perfecttear View Post
    Well the total terran population is presumed to be between 150 - 450 milions ( people disagree abot that), but the UED allience (93% of all the human population) total population is presumed to be "over" 200 billions (miliards- EU), now do the math
    200 billion is kind of high....I calculated 40 billion myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perfecttear View Post
    And the "massive fleet" that you mention was only composed of 3 division ( UED Genetic Engineers , UED Pyrotechnic Engineers , UED Security Guards ), since it primary role was exploration, to explore the "romoured" thread of aliens in that sector, and then make action based on the info. Most of the forces were enginiers and scientist , that were sent to research the aliens.
    Eh? Those 3 "divisons" were simply special soldiers assigned to oversee the control of the Overmind - I don't think that has anything to do with their actual fleet makeup. Their fleet was comprised of two separate units for ground & air combat, Atlas Wing & Cronus Wing.

    Early on a colony was sacrificed to the zerg so that the UED could observe live zerg in action.
    That was a Dominion colony though.

    Even with the conscription of multiple aditional division of troops, the ued tropps - fleet still was outnumbered 4 to 1 by the Terran Dominion forcess.
    And even being heavily outnumbered, the ued elite tropps managed to defeat the terrans, defeat the zerg and beslave the overmind and scare of the protoss, not to shaby for such a small force, if you consider that only the Dominion forcess outnumbered them 4 to 1.
    Where did you hear that the UED was outnumbered 4 to 1?

    The ued videos that you see in the BW campaign were meant for the local conscripted populoation.
    Where did you hear this? O_o

    Now imagine if the UED would attack will all it's forces, can you imagine a fleet 1000 times larger in size and numbers packed with elite profesional trained soldiers instead of the conscript army("militia") they had previously, and with the full support and technologies of the atlas system
    To be fair, the Earth colonies might not be that militaristic. We don't know what the situation is back on Earth either; remember, there are still dissident countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    They have no interest in returning as far as we know, but there are some splinter groups left. Vice Admiral Stukov is still alive - who knows what he's up to.
    What are you talking about Vice admiral stukovs BODY BLEW up like the terran marines when they die

    how could he live after that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragsash View Post
    What are you talking about Vice admiral stukovs BODY BLEW up like the terran marines when they die

    how could he live after that?
    You haven't heard of Resserection IV have you?

    Also, Game mechanics show the explosion, in reality he was just shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Archon View Post
    You haven't heard of Resserection IV have you?
    No I havent, dont have a clue what that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Archon View Post
    Also, Game mechanics show the explosion, in reality he was just shot.
    and havent you seen the new Rambo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXOLjOI0cT0

    just look at that and you cane compare that with the guns in SC that is in quite far in the furture (yes im aware of its quite exadurated *spelling*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragsash View Post
    No I havent, dont have a clue what that is.



    and havent you seen the new Rambo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXOLjOI0cT0

    just look at that and you cane compare that with the guns in SC that is in quite far in the furture (yes im aware of its quite exadurated *spelling*)
    Look it up.

    And besides, there would still be blood and guts left over. The zerg could have used that to bring Stukov back to life, albeit infested.

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    Default Re: any thoughts about the UED(spelling)?

    Um, he was shot, and then he talked a bit before he died.

    If the gun that shot him was really powerful enough to make him explode, he would be dead instantly.

    So no, he didn't explode.

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