[HotS] Meta-game theorycrafting

[Skyze]

Protoss players seem to have problems having ground superiority. Zerg and Terrans are having a much easier time creating massive deathballs.

I've seen some stability in Protoss groud armies.. Its just a completely different composition than WoL; a lot more immortal heavy mixes vs warhounds. Vs zerg, its tough but need to mix in more archons to deal with the locusts, but I've seen it work.

I think warhounds need a bit of work, but I like them so far kind of. I was really hoping they would specifically be used for countering mechanical units; such as being able to deal with tank lines and great vs stalkers, and weak vs things like zealots and marine/marauder.. Right now, they seem like a great all-around unit with added strength vs mechanical. Tone them down abit, maybe a bit longer range vs tanks even at the cost of some of their normal damage?

[The_Blade]

I've seen day[9] working with mass Archons and Zealots to deal with Roach and Swarm Hosts.

Here's an example of what I've seen from streams about Protoss not being able to handle Zerg.



Archons are great supply effective units, but they are expensive. Day[9] used Zealots as meatshields for Archons, but I don't see how attacking upgraded locusts. I don't believe there's a "correct" way to fight locusts. Ignoring them might work, but Zerg just has to cluster up his buildings. IMO locusts do too much damage, but I want to see a week of beta to see it clearly.

[Skyze]

Yea. I think that game was close, but I see where you are coming from kinda. I think its unfortunate protoss doesnt really have much to add to the composition when talking about new units; Tempests are kind of a money sink so far IMO (slight buff may be needed IMO) but I think WhiteRa was handling it fine until he started the tempest production so heavily, lowering his ground army count.

I wish Oracles still had that cloak, would of been great to add in to a mid-game army or two split for hatchery sniping or such.

[The_Blade]

Alright people, I'm currently within the Beta. Any requests on what you might want to see? Zerg, Protoss or Terran? I'll film myself doing horrible against the pros if you want to :P

[Gifted]

Tomorrow morning at 9am cst I'll be streaming HOTS with my usual approach for communicating with the audience and typically trying out their ideas. See ya on www.twitch.tv/legacyobserver if interested

[DemolitionSquid]

I'd like to see an analysis of the Viper's Abduct. How it functions with various terrain levels, over gaps, and onto doodads (like destructible rocks). Finding clipping or pathing bugs to exploit would be interesting.

Also, anyone know of any really good stream/vods other than Day9? Some dApollo would be great, he's always on the ball. I can't stand Husky, TotalBiscuit, and Crota - their voices are SO bad for casting (sorry Crota ) and do terrible, terrible damage to my ears. I don't mind Tastetosis 'cause Dan acctually has an idea of what he's talking about, but Nick just parrots him and its pretty sad.

[Alar]

I really loved Husky's videos. They got me excited with him. What a great guy.

[Gifted]

So, first night in the beta was odd.

Notable people played:
ForGG
SKTRain
GimbleB

Also played against two press invididuals that worked for Finnish and Italian fansites.

It was a fun night And so far, Medivac/Hellion/Marine/SCV

Discuss...

[DemolitionSquid]

Can someone confirm if the Battle Cruiser speed boost ability was left in or not? I'd like to see the stats on if it was (energy cost/cooldown, duration, speed increase).

[The_Blade]

It is out. I guess that made them op.