Karune speaks on massive unit transportation.

[flabortast]

Considering that the Thor is probably a very dangerous thing to drop. I guess ginving the opponent the ability to see it is beneficial. "But how about the reaver? It's also a danfegous unit for drops!" The revear in comparison is a very fragile unit. the Thor is a 400 HP monster who can stay on the ground safetly and take hits. Imagine the Dropship micro with a Thor. Not only does it have huge HP, dropship micro can make it nigh unkillable. I would say would not be so unfair to show your enemy that you have a Thor en route.

[supersonic]

Considering that the Thor is probably a very dangerous thing to drop. I guess ginving the opponent the ability to see it is beneficial. "But how about the reaver? It's also a danfegous unit for drops!" The revear in comparison is a very fragile unit. the Thor is a 400 HP monster who can stay on the ground safetly and take hits. Imagine the Dropship micro with a Thor. Not only does it have huge HP, dropship micro can make it nigh unkillable. I would say would not be so unfair to show your enemy that you have a Thor en route.

I agree with the dancing with a Thor and Dropship would be dangerous, but that's why they have the dropping animation, so the showing off the Thor still feels like too much with this.

[Nicol Bolas]

It's about in game lore. I can imagine 4 goliaths and 2 tanks fit in a dropship. A Thor in the lore IS larger than the dropship. I always imagine dropships to have vehicle bays for the longest time. Are you telling me Dropships have no vehicle bays?

That doesn't matter. I can imagine that DropShips are big enough to store a Thor in its bays too. People can imagine all kinds of things.

The revear in comparison is a very fragile unit. the Thor is a 400 HP monster who can stay on the ground safetly and take hits.

The Reaver had a combined 200Hp. And Shuttles could carry two of them. Thus equal to 400Hp.

[Pandonetho]

That doesn't matter. I can imagine that DropShips are big enough to store a Thor in its bays too. People can imagine all kinds of things.

Of course, it's called a Hercules Class Dropship.

The Reaver had a combined 200Hp. And Shuttles could carry two of them. Thus equal to 400Hp.

Shields don't count as HP, as they take 100 percent damage from everything.
Anyway, they have something the Thor doesn't, an attack that can raze groups of units to death in a shot or 2. The Thor can only shoot 1 target at a time anyway, or bombard 1 target.

[flabortast]

Of course, you have a point, but IMO for me its mostly flavor for Massive units. For a unit that can take out SCVs in one shot and can survive a heavy beating, I would be glad to see it coming.

@ Nicol
But Dropships CAN store tanks inside them and are bigger than tanks and goliaths. The Thor is in all aspects larger than a dropship.

[Pandonetho]

It can take out SCVs in one shot yes, but remember how slow it attacks.

All the SCVs would have run away at that point before you've managed to kill even 3 lol.

[flabortast]

But then, they wouldn't be mining would they? So basically you still ended up hampering their economy in one way. Also, the reaver's fragility also comes from how slow it is and relatively unreliable method of attack. If it isn't microed, it will be taking more damage than it dishes out. The Thor can be left relatively unmicroed and it can take care of itself. But I guess if Reavers were in SC2 the improved pathing would make them pretty broken huh?

I agree gameplay trumps lore, but doesn't mean they have to be devoid of all visual creativity.

[supersonic]

But then, they wouldn't be mining would they? So basically you still ended up hampering their economy in one way.

I agree gameplay trumps lore, but doesn't mean they have to be devoid of all visual creativity.

I'm all for visual creativity I just don't want to give away what I'm carrying.

They should have to scout my buildings and tech for what I could be carrying.

[PsiWarp]

It looks a though Massive units are now represented in a powerhouse unit fashion, almost hero-like...

I wouldn't mind if these units are displayed as visible cargo, if every race has at least one, it would be a great feature without overdoing it.


-Psi

[flabortast]

In light of this discussion, would giving detector units ability to see the contents of transports and bunkers be of any use?