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  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar View Post
    Where were Fenix's troops when Antioch Province was overrun by a single Hydralisk? (The answer, of course, was off recharging the batteries on their psi blades. Silly Fenix, that's what you get for not properly maintaining your equipment).
    This always bugged me a bit, but we can kind of excuse it considering the graphical capabilities of a rendering engine 15 years ago. I'd love to see a modern rendition of the scene with up-to-date 3-D animation quality. Something more akin to the HotS Zerg Rush opening cinematic.

    Honestly, I'd love to see what any/all of those old cinematics or mission briefings would look like with modern Blizzard-quality animation (maybe with some considerable down-scaling of general weirdness/inconsistencies, eg the size of the Battlecruiser that fell in that opening cinematic). Today's animation mixed with the dialogue from back then? Yes, please.
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  2. #32

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    Yeah, it's obviously system limitations. The whole batteries failing thing is probably the same - they couldn't animate a fight like Zeratul's in The Prophecy so they just used visual shorthand to show that Fenix was going to die.

    That cinematic's just my go-to example when I feel that people are being unreasonable in their criticism :P.
    Zeratul: I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...
    Aldaris: Did not! That doesn't even make sense!
    Zeratul: Shut up, I totally did!

  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar View Post
    Guys, StarCraft II's story has flaws enough without having to make them up. Where was Tychus? Maybe he went looking for more Marines to fight because he clearly enjoys it. Maybe he didn't want Mengsk to see him because Mengsk has a killswitch for Tychus' suit. Maybe Raynor asked Tychus not to come in because this is all personal for him. Maybe Tychus twisted his ankle and fell behind. Tychus could have been there, or not, and it really doesn't make a difference. This is not a plot hole, it's just something that happened that could have happened a different way.
    Who's making stuff up? There seems to be a lot more "maybe's" in your post than what I said; guess it wouldn't hurt to throw in another one would it? Maybe Tychus was doing nothing at all. Doesn't necessarily have to be taken as a criticism, mind you.
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  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar View Post
    Yeah, it's obviously system limitations. The whole batteries failing thing is probably the same - they couldn't animate a fight like Zeratul's in The Prophecy so they just used visual shorthand to show that Fenix was going to die.

    That cinematic's just my go-to example when I feel that people are being unreasonable in their criticism :P.

    Rahhh, they could've done so much more, though. T_T

    Like, in other cinematics, we could have gotten some sort of aftermath, something like the flashlight flickering on the ground after those two terrans got killed. Imagine if instead of fading to black right after the battery outage, we had gotten another wide exterior shot of nothing, but with distant, echoing battle sounds and hydraiisk screams. Then, after all was quiet they could have crossfaded to a shot panning over the seemingly dead body of Fenix... but surrounded by 3 dead hydralisks as well! No additional animation needed, just additional render time.

    I don't know if it would've made for a better cinematic, but it would have shown that Fenix was a badass, that he took some of them with him, which was something we never got.

  5. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    Who's making stuff up? There seems to be a lot more "maybe's" in your post than what I said; guess it wouldn't hurt to throw in another one would it? Maybe Tychus was doing nothing at all. Doesn't necessarily have to be taken as a criticism, mind you.
    There are a lot of "maybe"s in my post because there are a lot of reasonable explanations. It's only a plot hole if you choose to disregard them all, and at that point it's not because of a failing of the story, but because of your own choice. It's not like Tychus' absence is something that demands an explanation - that way lies endless minutia.
    Zeratul: I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...
    Aldaris: Did not! That doesn't even make sense!
    Zeratul: Shut up, I totally did!

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    It's still pretty funny to think about though. I always pictured Tychus still killing off Dominion soldiers, but is then caught off-guard when Raynor and Valerian enter and scene and tell him they've formed an alliance and he just has that WTF-just-happened face afterwards.

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    I could care less where Tychus went, but Heir Apparent is still one of the most teeth-gnashingly immersion-breaking cinematics in all of StarCraft. There is no reason any of you can come up with for why any marines had to die for a goddamn introduction. Period. I am seriously not accepting any counterarguments.

  8. #38

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    I'm not making any.

    The best one I could make still don't work.
    Zeratul: I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...
    Aldaris: Did not! That doesn't even make sense!
    Zeratul: Shut up, I totally did!

  9. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    There is no reason any of you can come up with for why any marines had to die for a goddamn introduction. Period. I am seriously not accepting any counterarguments.
    It was a dream. Makes perfect sense now. XD
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    There is no reason any of you can come up with for why any marines had to die for a goddamn introduction.
    Challenge accepted.

    Without the cinematic, there would be no epic shoot outs for the previews at BlizzCon

    What do I win?



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