[Assumption] First Shot Of The Brood Lord

[sandwich_bird]

Ok, could you please explain how?

Extremly similar form. The only big difference is that the long branch things on the side that serve as wings are connected. http://www.concept13.com/flq/Starcra.../Guardian1.gif

[ManjiSanji]

Extremly similar form. The only big difference is that the long branch things on the side that serve as wings are connected. http://www.concept13.com/flq/Starcra.../Guardian1.gif

...that's not at all what I meant.
I was talking about the definition of the word, versus the use of the unit.

Actually, everyone's major complaint about the Brood Lord is that it basically looks just like the old Guardian, and they want something new and original looking, with a different name.

[MattII]

It also functions like the Swarm Guardian. I think what a lot of us are waiting for is for Blizzard to announce that there is actually a difference between the SG and the BL other than the aesthetic one.

[ManjiSanji]

I think they did mention that it has 350 HP, which is fairly significant, but I wouldn't say game changing. I think it's more to account for the (hopeful) increase in air-to-air units.

[MattII]

Can't be, there's no more AtA units now than there was before, there's less in fact (Wraith->Viking, Valkyrie->?, Mutalisk->Mutalisk, Devourer->Corruptor, Scourge->?, Scout->Void Ray, Corsair->Phoenix). The reason that was done probably is because of the sudden increase in AtG, now that air can have some influence on a battle (beyond transport and support roles) AtA is becoming more common.

[RamiZ]

@ManjiSanji
Wait you dont understand? Lets put it this way on whole this forum i think you are the only one that accept name Brood Lord, its disgusting....especially for the Zerg....They dont need Lords and blah blah yes i know Overlord got lord in name but it is one word, and btw i didnt see people complaining over Guardians in SC BW and they didnt complain about Swarm Guardians, so your point Fails, cuz yeah it would be wrong to call all that units that way, but Guardian is old unit and accepted by community, why would they change it now, I know it is different from Guardian but it still has his role, AtG Siege Attacker, and it is Stronger, My favourite would be Brood Guardian, but not the whole name...

Wraith->Viking, Valkyrie->?

Actually Valkyrie->Viking, Wraith->Banshee...

[pure.Wasted]

Actually, everyone's major complaint about the Brood Lord is that it basically looks just like the old Guardian, and they want something new and original looking, with a different name.

Blizzard had the Swarm Guardian. It wasn't terribly inventive, but everybody liked it. And whatever their thoughts about the unit, most people loved the model. The unit's name represented its similarity to the original and did not try to pass it off as something completely new when it was not something completely new.

And cue Blizzard fixing what wasn't broken. They change the name to pretend that it's something cool and different (when it isn't); they make it look worse; they give the Zerg a capital ship-class air unit, the absence of which has for a long time been seen as part of their identity.

None of these are huge, but when you take it all in at once, it's jarring.

[Nicol Bolas]

they give the Zerg a capital ship-class air unit

No, they did not.

It doesn't matter how many HP the Brood Lord or whatever it is has; it isn't a capital ship unless it can attack both air and ground. Carriers and BattleCruisers can take care of themselves; Brood Lords can't. The Hp are there so that they don't die instantly when Vikings/Corruptors/Phoenixes show up on the scene, and thus there is some chance to defend them with your own Corruptors/Mutalisks.

[pure.Wasted]

No, they did not.

It doesn't matter how many HP the Brood Lord or whatever it is has; it isn't a capital ship unless it can attack both air and ground. Carriers and BattleCruisers can take care of themselves; Brood Lords can't. The Hp are there so that they don't die instantly when Vikings/Corruptors/Phoenixes show up on the scene, and thus there is some chance to defend them with your own Corruptors/Mutalisks.

That's a pretty random definition you got there, Nicol. Gonna bring up Wiki on this one:

"The capital ships of a navy are its "important" warships; the ones with the heaviest firepower and armor."

Seems like the Brood Lord, what with increased cost, increased HP, and its steady ridiculous firepower, would fit their definition no problem. The only ships that qualified for capital ship status in the original game were ones that happened to attack both air and ground; that is a coincidence, not a law writ in stone.

By your definition, the WWI Mothership less its air attack and with a Black Hole tuned to ground units instead of air would not have been a capital ship... when in reality, it would remain the most capital ship-like candidate of them all.

[Nicol Bolas]

That's a pretty random definition you got there, Nicol.

It also effectively describes the two ships that had "capital" status from SC1: things that if you get enough of them, can take care of themselves. Mass BCs is really hard to stop, and mass Carriers is hard to stop.

Mass Brood Lords will never be hard to stop. Nobody will ever GG to pure mass Brood Lords.