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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon
    If free Zerg are really good compared to DV enslaved Zerg, then this undermines the notion of what the Zerg were originally supposed to be about in the first place.
    This has been a concern of mine, too. When Zeratul and Zamara compare notes, we find the zerg are supposed to be good, or at worst benign. This comes from the fact that the Zerg and Protoss were supposed to merge peaceably and naturally, as opposed to violently.

    So the Zerg fulfill the role of the Orcs/Undead, while the Dark Voice is the Burning Legion incarnate. Following this parallel with WarCraft, I predicted a year or so ago that the Zerg would faction off at some point in StarCraft II, just like the Scourge. And what do we see happening? (I can play this game too, Drake Clawfang. =D)

    I'm anticipating that in Legacy of the Void, the Khalai are going to be stripped of their power and left hungering for energy, just like the High Elves. Or the Void will somehow become polluted, bereaving the Dark Templar of energy, leading to the High Elves anyways.

    Fun, fun... -_-
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    i dont really think they should change the zerg leader its too late for that. but i dont like this whole deinfesting route they went with. its like they deinfested her just so they could make a campaign where she has to get her powers back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    When Zeratul and Zamara compare notes, we find the zerg are supposed to be good, or at worst benign. This comes from the fact that the Zerg and Protoss were supposed to merge peaceably and naturally, as opposed to violently.
    This is utter garbage . The original Zerg life-form (before the Xel'Naga even up-lifted them) on Zerus was far from being "benign" since it naturally evolved a means to survive the hostile environment by parasitically merging and hi-jacking the evolution of it's host victims. Yet another retcon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    So the Zerg fulfill the role of the Orcs/Undead, while the Dark Voice is the Burning Legion incarnate. Following this parallel with WarCraft, I predicted a year or so ago that the Zerg would faction off at some point in StarCraft II, just like the Scourge. And what do we see happening? (I can play this game too, Drake Clawfang. =D)

    I'm anticipating that in Legacy of the Void, the Khalai are going to be stripped of their power and left hungering for energy, just like the High Elves. Or the Void will somehow become polluted, bereaving the Dark Templar of energy, leading to the High Elves anyways.

    Fun, fun... -_-
    *Screams in horror and runs to a corner, assuming foetal position while rocking gently trying to forget what I just read*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    That Kerrigan wants (or needs?) revenge in HotS sits somewhat strangely with me. Desiring and enacting revenge is quite a human trait sure, but so is showing restraint and ultimately rising above it. In Kerrigan, we have someone who has been de-infested and returned to humanity but now she wants to kill Mengsk not out of necessity or purpose (as she did to others in BW when she was still infested) but out of pure spite. I find the irony that the de-infested Kerrigan (HotS) has the potential to be less human than infested Kerrigan (BW) kind of interesting even though I doubt that this will be explored with any real depth .
    Sad thing is, That has the potential to be a very interesting and key plot element if done right, but like you said, that's one boat that'll likely be completely missed.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    This is utter garbage . The original Zerg life-form (before the Xel'Naga even up-lifted them) on Zerus was far from being "benign" since it naturally evolved a means to survive the hostile environment by parasitically merging and hi-jacking the evolution of it's host victims. Yet another retcon?
    No, you misunderstand the point. The original parasite of course was a parasite, the Zerg that the Xel'naga cultivated was supposed to be peaceful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Clawfang View Post
    No, you misunderstand the point. The original parasite of course was a parasite, the Zerg that the Xel'naga cultivated was supposed to be peaceful.
    It still seems like a retcon to me considering the Zerg's original conception was that even when uplifted by the Xel'Naga, the reason they were more happy with their second go-around was because the Zerg retained their essence/nature even after they meddled with them. The Xel'Naga purposefully changing the inherent nature of the Zerg species to be peaceful seems to fly in the face of that.

    I know the lore excuses the Xel'Naga of all this stuff as some kind of grand sex act to propagate themselves but when you think about it, it's kinda lame that the most intelligent race of genetic engineers and scientists ever, for some reason, can't even make themselves procreate in a more simplistic way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    I know the lore excuses the Xel'Naga of all this stuff as some kind of grand sex act to propagate themselves but when you think about it, it's kinda lame that the most intelligent race of genetic engineers and scientists ever, for some reason, can't even make themselves procreate in a more simplistic way...
    yes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    It still seems like a retcon to me considering the Zerg's original conception was that even when uplifted by the Xel'Naga, the reason they were more happy with their second go-around was because the Zerg retained their essence/nature even after they meddled with them. The Xel'Naga purposefully changing the inherent nature of the Zerg species to be peaceful seems to fly in the face of that.
    Except that "purity of form" and "purity of essence" have been vague terms the lore has never specifically defined. The zerg nature of parasitic entities may or may not have anything to do with their "purity". I would take purity of essence to refer more to their hive-mind unifying their race with one, singular intelligence guiding all the minds of the lesser zerg.
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    June 2007 - I predicted the Protoss campaign would give you new tech as you conducted diplomacy among tribes.

    Hidden Content:
    July 18th 2010 - I predicted Raynor would broadcast information of Mengsk's actions on Tarsonis to discredit him and incite rebellion.


    Hidden Content:
    June 16th 2010 I predicted the Voice in the Darkness was the commanding force behind the Hybrids. I'm calling it half-right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Clawfang View Post
    Except that "purity of form" and "purity of essence" have been vague terms the lore has never specifically defined.
    I've never understood how the terms "purity of form" and "purity of essence" needs any further explanation. They are self-evident in themselves when you use them to describe the Protoss (for the former) and Zerg (the latter). The "lore" explanations of these terms, if and when they come, would only just be fanciful gravy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Clawfang View Post
    The zerg nature of parasitic entities may or may not have anything to do with their "purity". I would take purity of essence to refer more to their hive-mind unifying their race with one, singular intelligence guiding all the minds of the lesser zerg.
    The Zerg "purity of essence" can (note that this is just a logical inference from original source material. Blizz will most likely have some other inane "lore" explanation behind it though ) be explained as their unbending drive to assimilate and grow even despite the intervention/manipulation of the Xel'Naga and the multiple changes it incorporates as part of this process. This is the single defining characteristic/quality of every Zerg whether it be from the lowly parasite all the way to the Overmind, without which, they would not be Zerg at all.
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    In the leaked ending Kerrigan says to Arcturus that he "made us into monsters." First of all it was the overmind that did that, not Arcturus. Second of all she willingly reinfests herself so that isn't his fault either. Also if she "embraces her zerg side" (at what point after her infestation did she not do this?) then why is she mad at Arcturus for turning her into zerg? Didn't she get her revenge on Arcturus in BW (by uh...restoring him to power)? Now she wants more revenge?

    Also according to the prophecy her infestation was preordained or something so it was meant to be. Oh and this also means she in fact has no free will so I'm not sure how HOTS can involve Kerrigan not being manipulated when the whole storyline revolves around the fact that her being infested is the sole purpose of her existence. Ugh.

    Also how come Kerrigan killing Mengsk's family isn't mentioned? Sounds like a rather important detail in their relationship. Yeah I know it was a pointless retcon but its canon. If they didn't want some ambiguity or a Batmanesque "You made me and I made you" scene than they could have you know...ignored that part rather than making it canon.

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