Unit Pictures

[Quirel]

Searching around for the "hydrolyse," I did find this thing that the wiki calls a "hydolysk" that I'd never seen before. Is that what you meant?



Guess I don't know as much about Ghost as I thought... Hydralisk mermaids... Come to think of it, I don't even remember seeing any Ghost footage with water in it at all. I don't think I'll draw it, though... Now I'm just going through the Zerg Breeds category.

I seem to recall concept art of submerged Protoss egg clutches, so there was probably going to be an underwater level.

Ah, here we are. Art by Johnnie Estill.

• Roverlisks. In one of the books there are infested dogs. I guess I could do one... but it might be kind of silly, and they're never in the games...

Aww, I was going to suggest that one...

[Robear]

Oh man, I totally forgot about that. Yeah, no Protoss eggs in this project either.

Are you also going to do buildings? It would be interesting to see the size of a floating command center or the overmind

Yeah, it'd be a cool project, but honestly it'd take another year to do, plus I'd be making up details and sizes from nothing. Who knows how big an academy is supposed to be, or a fusion core? The closest to a terran building I've got is the science vessel, and I really don't want to do another 30 drawings that would take this amount of time.



(I'll make the other half by copy/flip/pasting)

If you want to see terran buildings to scale, you'll just have to scrounge through the occasional Ghost screenshot like the rest of us. :P



Let's talk Terran units. After the Science vessel, the only ones I was planning to do that are left are the Raven and Spectre. I'll list the other units I know about, but wasn't planning to do, and, please, point out anything I'm missing!

• Auto turrets, point-defense drones, floor turrets, flame turrets, etc.
• Warhounds, Widow Mines, Shredders, Battle Hellions, HotS stuff. None until HotS is out.
• ARES, the security robots from the SC2 secret mission.
• Odin, Loki, Hyperion, other special hero units.
• Trucks, cars, bikes, normal vehicle doodads.
• Those armored personnel carriers from SC2 with colonists in them that you have to guard.
• Civilians, scientists, anyone unarmored. We already know how big normal people are with units like the ghost and vulture.
• The missile launcher truck thing from that SC cinematic that blows up a dragoon. *shrug*
• Drop pods. Looks like they'll be in a HotS cutscene, but I can't tell how big they are for now, and they're not a real unit anyway.
• All the unnamed terran cargo ships and things floating around in the original cinematics. I guess I could do this one, it shows up a lot. But, maybe I shouldn't.

[Shadow Archon]

I did do some Battlecruiser scalings over at Spacebattles.

Here:





And from that I did a Science Vessel one:



Assuming the Hammerhead shares the same width with the "pods."





Also did an Ultralisk scaling assuming Mr Jack's art is canon now:



Also, just for reference, a Leviathan to Mothership scale:

[Hawki]

General response:

-I like the battlecruiser measurements. It seems distinctly possible that Behemoth-class battlecruisers are larger than Minotaur ones, and the length provided in the scaling seems much more likely than the Uprising one.

-Like Mr. Jack's artwork, but I wouldn't count the ultralisk one as canon, or if it is, use its scale as a basis. We had a 5m height given for the ultralisk in past lore, and even if Robobear is accurate in making the SGW ultralisk larger, I hardly see it gaining 30m. Could be some kind of variant strain I guess though.

-Back to the brutalise (yes, that again), I actually think it should be bigger than the ultralisk now. Even if its size in-game is simple game mechanics, the fact remains that it travels REALLY slowly. So slowly that kiting Reapers are all it takes to kill it. If it moves slower than an ultralisk, than presumably it's larger as well.

[Robear]

I did do some Battlecruiser scalings over at Spacebattles.

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And from that I did a Science Vessel one:

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Also did an Ultralisk scaling assuming Mr Jack's art is canon now:

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Also, just for reference, a Leviathan to Mothership scale:

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That's some impressive work! But I'm afraid I'm still going to differ from it a bit.

That Mr. Jack ultralisk art is not really a good source, for several reasons. You've listed the Zealot's height as 3 meters tall, which is right, but that Zealot in that picture is in a really wide stance, not standing straight at all, so I think that's why your estimate is much bigger than mine. :/

Regardless, Heart of the Swarm's cinematic ultralisk will supersede any concept art (Samwise's original concept that the game units was based on is much smaller). It'd be cool if you could do this kind of analysis on screenshots of the trailer.


I also find your Science vessel estimate hard to believe. It seems odd that you would extrapolate from just its silhouette in that cinematic, instead of using the windows clearly seen here:



Want to make a guess based on this vessel? It'd be substantially smaller, meaning the one in that cinematic is just in the foreground.

I'm totally on board with your battlecruiser estimate though! Mine's just over 1200 meters, yours is 1183. I'm glad we've got essentially the same result, that difference is probably just my drawing differing from Blizzard's original. And it lends credence to my 'each of those hangars fits a dropship' theory.

Finally, I still have to hold off on the Leviathan— I love that concept, but who knows how Heart of the Swarm's Leviathan will follow it? That's just the only one that was leaked to the public.

[Visions of Khas]

Shadow Archon: I agree that the Science Vessel is a mammoth of a vessel, but I don't believe it's nearly as big as you estimate. Referring to Battle on the Amerigo, you'll see that the Marines' shuttle appears fairly large next to it. You'll also note that the shuttle is only a little larger than a Wraith, when you look at the Mengsk's Coronation speech cinematic.

The SV in the UED cinematic is just much closer to the viewer than the Battlecruisers are.

[Hawki]

Shadow Archon: I agree that the Science Vessel is a mammoth of a vessel, but I don't believe it's nearly as big as you estimate. Referring to Battle on the Amerigo, you'll see that the Marines' shuttle appears fairly large next to it. You'll also note that the shuttle is only a little larger than a Wraith, when you look at the Mengsk's Coronation speech cinematic.

The SV in the UED cinematic is just much closer to the viewer than the Battlecruisers are.

Nitpicking, but the ship in the cinematic mentioned isn't a shuttle. Can still be drawn though, along with the actual shuttle design.

[Shadow Archon]

Shadow Archon: I agree that the Science Vessel is a mammoth of a vessel, but I don't believe it's nearly as big as you estimate. Referring to Battle on the Amerigo, you'll see that the Marines' shuttle appears fairly large next to it. You'll also note that the shuttle is only a little larger than a Wraith, when you look at the Mengsk's Coronation speech cinematic.

I noted that back in spacebattles. It can be explained simply by contradicting models. Remember how Wraiths flew over the BC in Inauguration? They appear much larger than they do in the UED cinematic.

It also could simply be a matter of perspective for the Marine pod.



Just like you mention for the UED.

I'm not saying they are that larger though. I thought 3x3 kms was a good estimate.

The SV in the UED cinematic is just much closer to the viewer than the Battlecruisers are.

Actually, the SV and the BCs are moving at the same speed and at the same direction implying some level of closeness seeing as they aren't becoming larger or smaller.

-Like Mr. Jack's artwork, but I wouldn't count the ultralisk one as canon, or if it is, use its scale as a basis. We had a 5m height given for the ultralisk in past lore, and even if Robobear is accurate in making the SGW ultralisk larger, I hardly see it gaining 30m. Could be some kind of variant strain I guess though.

Going by Frontline, I got 15 meter high Ultralisks from a rough EB estimate.



Zerg are biological creatures, so they don't have to be uniform.

Like this mega Zergling here:



Definitely not a meter long.

Want to make a guess based on this vessel? It'd be substantially smaller, meaning the one in that cinematic is just in the foreground.

Thanks! I've been trying to find that pic forever now.

Sure, I could do a cacl. Assuming 1 meter windows or 2 though like the BC?

Also, if you all like that, I did some other work:

Starcraft Source Thread

Yes, it's mainly a versus forum, but hey, I like debating starcraft.

[Robear]

Thanks! I've been trying to find that pic forever now.

Sure, I could do a cacl. Assuming 1 meter windows or 2 though like the BC?

Also, if you all like that, I did some other work:

Starcraft Source Thread

Yes, it's mainly a versus forum, but hey, I like debating starcraft.

np, it's great to see more people as into this stuff as I am.

I guess I'd say 2 meters, just because there need to be whole floors with science labs inside in between, and there's not much space in between the windows in the pictures. I look forward to your results for scaling mine.



Close enough to the cinematic model for me.

[Shadow Archon]

A little bit of an estimate had to be done because of the diagonal position. Paint isn't really helpful there. So, 444 meters. Seems a bit too small though. I seem to recall them being described as mobile space stations.