Protoss - Human Offspring

[personamyth]

@Turalyon: I'm sorry did does it sound funny to you since everyone has a different sense of humor? perhaps I don't find your sarcasm to be humorous since I am not from Aussie like you...please do consider the fact that it isn't my fault to take it wrong in first place. Because how would you feel if someone takes your comments with sarcastic attitude? perhaps you wouldn't mind, but that is your case..as for mine, just letting you know that everyone has a different sense of humor.
I do take your point, and I fully respect your comments, since I do enjoy talking about some random crazy ideas about Starcraft. But I don't feel like posting anything now...Thanks for you understanding

[TheProgramer]

!SPOILER ALERT!

So I just read the story "Do No Harm" from Frontline Vol. 3 that talks about the "first successful cross-species tissue transplant between protoss and human."

In it we get some cool pictures of the interspecies creature called "Gestalt 0". It definalty looks more like an adult human that has been grafted with parts of a protoss.

The man had his eyes replaced with a Protoss' and his mouth sewn shut. He has had Protoss nerve cords attached ot the back of his skull, and interwoven through his spinal cord.

It's all very artificial. The picture in the original post seems more like an off-spring of a human and protoss (if that were possible), or a human-protoss hybrid that was grown in a test tube.

Here are some pictures of Gestalt 0.

Gestalt 0 in his ghost uniform (mask off):


Gestalt 0 in his ghost uniform (mask on):


Gestlat 0 with his mouth un-sewn:


Gestlat 0's back showing off the nerve cords:


Gestlat 0 attacking without uniform:

[Quirel]

The man had his eyes replaced with a Protoss' and his mouth sewn shut.

This I don't get. What possible benefit could that achieve? Are Protoss eyes specially adapted to seeing Psionic effects?

And what of the mouth? How is robbing a person of their ability to communicate supposed to help anything?

He has had Protoss nerve cords attached ot the back of his skull, and interwoven through his spinal cord.

It's all very artificial. The picture in the original post seems more like an off-spring of a human and protoss (if that were possible), or a human-protoss hybrid that was grown in a test tube.

This bit here, I'm alright with.

[Turalyon]

This I don't get. What possible benefit could that achieve? Are Protoss eyes specially adapted to seeing Psionic effects?

And what of the mouth? How is robbing a person of their ability to communicate supposed to help anything?

These are just design choices to make him look less human and more Protoss-y. Without the glowing eyes and "no mouth" you can't really tell that he looks any more special than a normal Ghost from a frontal view.

I'm actually surprised how Protoss eyes are even transplantable in the first place given that a Protoss' head (and would also assume the eyes would be as well) is many times larger than a human's. Regardless, it is not uncommon for ghosts to have ocular implants since it is justifiable lore-wise and a researchable tech in the game itself. I guess Protoss eyes are just better-er than the standard ocular implants they use.

As for the stitched mouth, maybe it's a means to force him to telepathically communicate like all good Protoss do.

[GnaReffotsirk]

I agree. It's most likely some kind of twisted thing to prevent him from connecting with other human beings, and thus isolating him and turning him over psychologically, emotionally, and socially.

Direct communication with a fellow human and getting affirmation of identity through appearance is somewhat part of our being.

Disfiguring him creates a result. Take a look at that scientist guy who can't talk now due to some illness, and how he uses his mind instead to imagine things. His losing of certain faculties forced him to conjure up ideas, and his being "different" has caused him to become more "rebellious" in our eyes regarding his personal notions of things.

This creates nice dilemmas that can be explored story-wise.

In any case, my thoughts on Starcraft Lore and how it defines different species is that in it's core, the universe produces varied species, and yet those who are so called "intelligent" follow a distinct pattern which albeit different can be categorized and read "similar" in certain aspects of their physicality and mental attributes.

The overmind thinks like a human, humans can seem like the overmind, etc.

In reality, fiction can never go beyond this limitation. One reason is we cannot possibly conceive anything that is beyond what we've seen or known.

Say for example the identity of "God" or "gods" they always are attributed with, limited, and defined, under what the current level of understanding, perceptions, notions, etc. of the people who view them.

Stories are for humans, and creating characters that are so non-human will immediately feel weird and offensive. The character or material then only becomes a sort of environment upon human interactions are shown to occur, and this "human responses" inevitably becomes the only source and main point of view of the viewers or readers.

This however is not an excuse to not create "true alien" characters, but once the story focuses on a character, that character must in part have some human traits upon which to explore a theme.

[Sheliek]

This I don't get. What possible benefit could that achieve? Are Protoss eyes specially adapted to seeing Psionic effects?

And what of the mouth? How is robbing a person of their ability to communicate supposed to help anything?


This bit here, I'm alright with.

The guy who created the protoss-terran hybrids is something of a mad scientist, even by Koprulu standards.

[Shadow Archon]

This I don't get. What possible benefit could that achieve? Are Protoss eyes specially adapted to seeing Psionic effects?

Protoss eyes are superior to human eyes in vision and other attributes. "Psionic effects" don't really need to have special eyes seeing as we can always see them normally, they can just see farther and perhaps even have a night vision like affect depending upon how you look at some quotes from Queen of Blades or the DT saga.

[Pr0nogo]

I think this is a retarded idea by any stretch of the imagination. I like that there are ideas of torture, gore, and other ("mature") things that StarCraft has lacked for decades being tossed out, but this doesn't abide by the lore at all. It's nonsensical. There's no way anyone who isn't an intern would think of this idea - and it came from a book. That's depressing, even with what we have from Blizzard when it comes to novels.

"Psionic effects" don't really need to have special eyes seeing as we can always see them normally

Uhm, no, I think that the more powerful psionic spells (Psionic Storm being one of the higher-tiered ones, but by no means the most powerful) have a visual presence for all to see, but some of the more subtler ones (hallucination detection, anyone?) require more skilled eyes.

[Hawki]

!SPOILER ALERT!

So I just read the story "Do No Harm" from Frontline Vol. 3 that talks about the "first successful cross-species tissue transplant between protoss and human."

In it we get some cool pictures of the interspecies creature called "Gestalt 0". It definalty looks more like an adult human that has been grafted with parts of a protoss.

The man had his eyes replaced with a Protoss' and his mouth sewn shut. He has had Protoss nerve cords attached ot the back of his skull, and interwoven through his spinal cord.

It's all very artificial. The picture in the original post seems more like an off-spring of a human and protoss (if that were possible), or a human-protoss hybrid that was grown in a test tube.

Hardly a spoiler, considering the story came out three years ago. But yes, Zero is a terran with protoss tissue grafted on rather than being a true hybrid. Personally I doubt that there could ever be a true hybrid of a human and protoss, or heck, between any human or other alien in the setting. Exceot space vampires. Because we know what happens when humans and vampires make out.

This I don't get. What possible benefit could that achieve? Are Protoss eyes specially adapted to seeing Psionic effects?

And what of the mouth? How is robbing a person of their ability to communicate supposed to help anything?

Don't know about the eyes. Could be a vision thing. As for the mouth, I think it's more in the realm of 'because the plot says so,' how Zero is a silent soldier until he kills Burgess, that point being the only point where he actually talks. Satisfying from a reader's perspective, poetic justice from the story's one.

I think this is a retarded idea by any stretch of the imagination. I like that there are ideas of torture, gore, and other ("mature") things that StarCraft has lacked for decades being tossed out, but this doesn't abide by the lore at all. It's nonsensical. There's no way anyone who isn't an intern would think of this idea - and it came from a book. That's depressing, even with what we have from Blizzard when it comes to novels.

"Decades" is an overstatement since the series has only been around since 1998, but that wasn't your point. Again, to each their own, but I thought it was a well executed idea. The idea of a protoss-terran hybrid was one that stems as far back as Brood War (in that they were the last type of hybrid among the 'big three' we hadn't seen) and it did it in a sensible way. Something the Dominion would do. Certainly I consider it one of the most memorable installments of the Frontline series.

[Quirel]

Meh. Even if Protoss can see in better detail than humans, or perhaps have nightvision, I would have thought that the Ghost Program's ocular implants would have similar performance.

Still think that the Protoss eyes would be geared toward detecting subtle psionic effects. In the Dark Templar trilogy, there was a Ghost that could sense 'auras', or at least tell who had last touched a wineglass. Would be interesting if the Protoss had (And were written as if they had) subtle abilities like that.