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    Quote Originally Posted by phazonjunkie View Post
    Heh, let's not forget that Kerrigan is supposedly now going to be able to do what she really wants to do. Even though if she doesn't free the zerg from the hybrids then the universe dies. So much her having a real choice.

    Also she is apparently pissed off (according to Metzen at least) at being turned into the Overmind's slave so she will....do what the Overmind wanted her to do anyway. Which is what she was already doing. Which she seemed perfectly fine with doing already.

    Apparently she doesn't want to turn into Mengsk, even though she committed far worse atrocities then he could ever commit. Now that she is free from the zerg corruption she....will continue to commit these horrific atrocities except do it less (I guess?) and she will feel more guilty about than before.

    Oh and the only way this artifact business makes any sense would be if the Overmind planned it in order to give Kerrigan free will. So it infested her so she would have free will when it committed suicide. Except she wouldn't have free will so she will have to be deinfested by the artifact, which the Overmind somehow knows exists and somehow know it deinfests her somehow (but not her hair, for some reason) so Kerrigan can be reinfested in a way which somehow makes her not evil since the Overmind couldn't infest in a way that gives her free will for some reason.
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    Wow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentian View Post
    Heh, let's not forget that Kerrigan is supposedly now going to be able to do what she really wants to do. Even though if she doesn't free the zerg from the hybrids then the universe dies. So much her having a real choice.

    Also she is apparently pissed off (according to Metzen at least) at being turned into the Overmind's slave so she will....do what the Overmind wanted her to do anyway. Which is what she was already doing. Which she seemed perfectly fine with doing already.

    Apparently she doesn't want to turn into Mengsk, even though she committed far worse atrocities then he could ever commit. Now that she is free from the zerg corruption she....will continue to commit these horrific atrocities except do it less (I guess?) and she will feel more guilty about than before.

    Oh and the only way this artifact business makes any sense would be if the Overmind planned it in order to give Kerrigan free will. So it infested her so she would have free will when it committed suicide. Except she wouldn't have free will so she will have to be deinfested by the artifact, which the Overmind somehow knows exists and somehow know it deinfests her somehow (but not her hair, for some reason) so Kerrigan can be reinfested in a way which somehow makes her not evil since the Overmind couldn't infest in a way that gives her free will for some reason.
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    Phew, haven't been here in a while (ever since SC2's plot/dialogue/acting felt like a disappointment for me, personally). Thought I'd drop by again. Honestly I thought this was a thread that got necro'd but I guess this is still a front page topic.

    My most major memorable complaint for SC2 is that Kerrigan at the end of SC1 basically secured her position at the top of the hierarchy. Lo and behold come SC2, a mere 4 years later and her pathetic Zerg army loses to a guy and his battleship + crew.

    Seriously, that's just messed up. So much for allowing her enemies a "short reprieve".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandonetho View Post
    Lo and behold come SC2, a mere 4 years later and her pathetic Zerg army loses to a guy and his battleship + crew
    Don't forget that the Zerg were (conveniently) spread out across the sector looking for the artifacts and that half the Dominion fleet backed Raynor up so he could make a landing on Char.

    Still, the story-telling could've been helped by highlighting these particular points better if they included the star-map thingy they were supposed to implement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pandonetho View Post
    So much for allowing her enemies a "short reprieve".
    I agree. After 4 years, the Zerg are the least changed race of all three especially when they are known for rapid mutation and adaptation. It makes you wonder what could've occupied Kerrigan for approximately 1460 solid days to only have nothing to show for it in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    It makes you wonder what could've occupied Kerrigan for approximately 1460 solid days to only have nothing to show for it in the end.
    Her hair ? tis a horrible sight and being a lady, i doubt a day went by that she didnt sit by a mirror, postpone all invasions and just sob into a lisks arms about how ugly and fat she is ? even though kerrigan as a zerg is ranked 5th in the nerds would like to bang list *No f'ing joke*.

    but thats just my theory.

    *not intended to insult any females, but damn you girls moan about your hair soooo much :P*

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    I'm not the only one who found her more attractive in her original and infested states, am I...? >.>

    BUT LET'S NOT GET TOO FAR OFF TOPIC! -cough- I think it's definitely a damn good question as to what she was up to. Okay, so she designed the Broodmothers, had them birthed/created, and then taught them all she thought they'd need to know to take the Swarm to the next step. She also found and discovered a few new creatures and integrated them into the Swarm, but from what we know of the Baneling story, that doesn't typically take a whole lot of time (at least for new evolutions).

    It's also entirely possible that, in that time, the Dark Voice contacted her and kept her in check until the first signs of the Artifacts surfaced, and then told her to go and find them... I'm also thinking this is why Kerrigan's personality seems rather gutted in this game. She's being controlled rather directly by the Dark Voice, and so it screwed with the Kerrigan we know and hate/love.

    This also makes me wonder about the Dark Voice's competency as well. We know he ends up destroying the universe and all that jazz, but really? Kerrigan would've been more awesome had he just let her go off and do her own thing, with the goal to capture or destroy the Artifacts as more of a sub-objective.

    Not to mention it should have been impossible for them to invade Char and use the Artifact on her if all her forces had still been there.
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    Hm, lol at the truth. It feels like "we heard you like infestation and free will so we put an infestation and free will in your infestation and free will". So well story wise it might not actually be so good "standard". BUT I do have to say I want the HotS story now! It's very exciting so even though the basic story is well not the best, it's still something you want more of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckyyy View Post
    Her hair ? tis a horrible sight and being a lady, i doubt a day went by that she didnt sit by a mirror, postpone all invasions and just sob into a lisks arms about how ugly and fat she is ? even though kerrigan as a zerg is ranked 5th in the nerds would like to bang list *No f'ing joke*.
    That and probably the time she spent trying to find a nice pair of shoes that would match with her chitin and wings get-up. Failing at last to find a decent pair of shoes on the net, she decided to painstakingly grow some heels of her own. She probably then went in search for on impartial opinion on them (afterall, her own Zerg minions had no choice but to say "we love them") which culminated, at last, with her meeting with Zeratul in that trendy club, 'The Prophecy Cave'.

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    I'm not the only one who found her more attractive in her original and infested states, am I...? >.>
    Fetish much?


    Quote Originally Posted by Alar View Post
    She's being controlled rather directly by the Dark Voice, and so it screwed with the Kerrigan we know and hate/love.

    This also makes me wonder about the Dark Voice's competency as well. We know he ends up destroying the universe and all that jazz, but really? Kerrigan would've been more awesome had he just let her go off and do her own thing, with the goal to capture or destroy the Artifacts as more of a sub-objective.
    You've just mooted your own first point. If the DV had direct control of Kerrigan in the beginning (or even just from the end of BW) and that it plans to ultimately destroy all life (Protoss or whatever...), why didn't it just command Kerrigan to do so when she had literally everyone by the throat at BW's end?

    I fathom to see any significant importance the artifact really has for the DV except as a "gotta catchem all" plot device that happens to conveniently be the only thing that can break the DV control over Kerrigan and therefore the DV must collect them. Although it may help, the artifact is not necessary to create more Hybrids (Duran has already mentioned he has "seeded the Hyrbid on many, many worlds" in Dark Origin) and that they're already a credible threat when they're awake. The artifact is not needed to wipe out the Zerg or Protoss either since In Utter Darkness shows us that the DV still uses martial means (as in using, or co-opting in the case of the Zerg, an army to enforce its will) to dispose of his enemies.

    It is rather stupid to have Kerrigan search for a dormant and possibly non-existent threat (which the artifact appears to be) that was probably not going be realised when she could've (if under the DV's control) just as easily and quickly destroyed them totally (to nullify that threat) right after BWs conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    You've just mooted your own first point. If the DV had direct control of Kerrigan in the beginning (or even just from the end of BW) and that it plans to ultimately destroy all life (Protoss or whatever...), why didn't it just command Kerrigan to do so when she had literally everyone by the throat at BW's end?
    Are we sure that she was under the Dark Voice's control back then?

    I've spent a while wondering about the Dark Voice. What could its motivations be? What, exactly, would drive it to eliminate all life in the universe?

    Discounting my ideas of what the Dark Voice is, which is 95% fanon, I'm wondering if controlling a single mind is a taxing process for it. What if compound minds, like the Overmind, are easier to control?

    Even then, we know that the mind control isn't 100% effective: The Overmind did, after all, leave Kerrigan free willed and go through this whole gambit.
    And really, it's not that hard to swallow. Look at Saren from Mass Effect. Even after Sovereign 'upgraded' him, he was able to apologize and put a gun to his head when he realized that he was being used. With enough doublethink, what could something as intelligent as the Overmind have done?

    The problem is, Kerrigan is still jacked into the collective mind of the Swarm, and is open to the Dark Voice's influence, even if it does take a while. This is where the Artifact comes in. By de-infesting her (and who knows what else it does) it temporarily interrupts the Dark Voice's control and lets Kerrigan get her bearings before rejoining the fight.

    The other problem is that Kerrigan doesn't know any of this. My theory is, the Overmind was working on this part of the plan.
    Or maybe Narud is part of some agency that is fighting against the Dark Voice, and the Overmind was banking on someone like him to pick up the pieces?

    I don't know. Feel free to shoot this one down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turalyon View Post
    It is rather stupid to have Kerrigan search for a dormant and possibly non-existent threat (which the artifact appears to be) that was probably not going be realised when she could've (if under the DV's control) just as easily and quickly destroyed them totally (to nullify that threat) right after BWs conclusion.
    Again, you're assuming that Kerrigan was under the Dark Voice's control from the get-go.

    The end text from Brood War mentions that she's anticipating a bigger fight, or some unknown danger. At the beginning of WoL, she's depressed and fatalistic. After that, she's pretty much slaughtering at will and making a run for the artifacts.

    The way I see it, she set out to find that danger on the horizon. When she met up with Zeratul, she had found that danger, and realized what it was doing to her. And after that, the Dark Voice had complete influence.

    So, she initially sought out the prophecies and the artifacts as a way to save herself, and then as a way to prevent any other agency from using them against her.

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