Game of Thrones

[Hawki]

Thread necro, much? Still, since season 2 started recently, I guess it's forgivable. Anyway:

Anyone followed the series? If not, I highly suggest that you go check it out NOW. The first season final aired yesterday and I can tell you it was pretty epic! Normally I'm not a tv guy (only recent show I watched was the walking dead which was decent apart from the science stuff that made me lol) but game of thrones got me hooked easily. Hell I'm so into it now that I bought all 4 books today(and plan on reading them this week)!

Haven't seen the TV series I'm afraid. While our house has cable, I don't think the respective channel is covered and even if it was, I'd be lucky to be able to watch it. Still, I have read the first two books though, and the other three are in the house. Don't think I'll start the third book anytime soon though, considering the ammount of time it took to read the first two.

This show has plenty of violence and sex around every corner. A must-watch.

Ah, yes. "Sexposition."

Read an article about the concept recently. Sometimes I wonder who's the more lazy-writers for having to resort to it to sustain interest, or whether the average viewer has so little of an attention span that they need intercourse to stay invested. Of course, it's also down to personal philosophy-of writing I've done, there's been a few times where I've left the implications of intercourse occuring, but when is it ever relevant to the plot to show it? From experience, very rarely.

We need George R.R. Martin to write the rest of the SC2 campaigns. Can you imagine? No artifacts, crystals, or prophecies? A character driven storyline? My god. o.o

Couple of problems with that:

1) Artifacts, crystals and prophecies were part of StarCraft long before Wings of Liberty.

2) Artifacts and prophecies are part of A Song of Ice and Fire. Each house (or at least most of them) have their own 'special sword' (e.g. Ice) passed down throughout the centuries/millenia and prophecies have been spewed at least twice by book two, namely Deny's unborn child and Mellisandre waxing lyrical about Stannis and Rhallor. Think there's more than those two as well, but can't name specific ones.

3) We waited 12 years for WoL. Given how slowly Martin writes, think he could deliver it any faster?

This! He'd probably behead Raynor though

Warp blade or psi-blade?

frankly, i dont expect that from a fantasy series... its like, as soon as something vaguely relatable happens that makes sence in a good way, along comes some arbitrary magic shit to fuck it up...

... i havnt tried watching this series yet. so tell me im wrong.

I can understand the viewpoint, even if I don't have a problem with that myself. I will say that magic plays a comparatively minor role in the series, but seems to get more and more involved with each installment.

What's funny is that Blizzard thinks SC2 IS character driven

I'll spare analysis of why that's true here-covered it in the "Player Characters and You" thread.

And the thing i like about the TV version is it does what the author tries to do in writing so much better, which is portray the point of views of each character

Martin's certainly got an interesting writing style in regards to characters. It's a select few for each book, but is very much in tight third person style. From what I've read and written, it can be quite hard to write for multiple POVs, or at least in the realm of more POVs than what he does, in that each character has to have their own 'voice.' Not so much in dialogue, but in internal thought, which can be very difficult to make varied because the writer is inevitably injecting his/her own thought process into it.

Lol! Have you read the original A Song of Ice and Fire series by any chance? Because that's... even.... slow...... er

Not as slow as book 2, I can tell you that. And from what I've heard, the pacing gets even slower in future installments.

[The_Blade]

I enjoy Spartacus as a whole because it is also really well immersed in context with the times of the roman empire.

The new season of Game of Thrones is also amazing. Despite people calling the first episodes "lacking". I guess I'll just enjoy the crechendo of the plot until everyone is hyped again for the third season.

The actors playing Joffrey, Varys and Tyrion are still among the best, so far into the season.

[sandwich_bird]

The new season of Game of Thrones is also amazing. Despite people calling the first episodes "lacking". I guess I'll just enjoy the crechendo of the plot until everyone is hyped again for the third season.

I wouldn't say it was lacking, it's just that I find the pacing weird. Maybe that's just cause the book went slightly differently though.

[Gradius]

Ah, yes. "Sexposition."

Read an article about the concept recently. Sometimes I wonder who's the more lazy-writers for having to resort to it to sustain interest, or whether the average viewer has so little of an attention span that they need intercourse to stay invested. Of course, it's also down to personal philosophy-of writing I've done, there's been a few times where I've left the implications of intercourse occuring, but when is it ever relevant to the plot to show it? From experience, very rarely.

IMHO fight and sex scenes are like graphics, they are to be considered independently of the plot. So I'm not sure what this has to do with Spartacus, or really, any piece of literature. I know I wouldn't stop watching the show if they toned it all down to pg-13 levels. Everybody who dismisses the show as a "gore and fuckfest" is really doing a disservice to themselves, not that I particularly care, but still. :P

Couple of problems with that:

1) Artifacts, crystals and prophecies were part of StarCraft long before Wings of Liberty.

2) Artifacts and prophecies are part of A Song of Ice and Fire. Each house (or at least most of them) have their own 'special sword' (e.g. Ice) passed down throughout the centuries/millenia and prophecies have been spewed at least twice by book two, namely Deny's unborn child and Mellisandre waxing lyrical about Stannis and Rhallor. Think there's more than those two as well, but can't name specific ones.

3) We waited 12 years for WoL. Given how slowly Martin writes, think he could deliver it any faster?

I was mainly joking, but yes, that's why he would be perfect!

Not as slow as book 2, I can tell you that. And from what I've heard, the pacing gets even slower in future installments.

It's a longwinded trudgefest to say the least. 500 pages and nothing noteworthy to the plot is a common occurrence in his future installments. But nobody can say that GRRM failed at world building.

I enjoy Spartacus as a whole because it is also really well immersed in context with the times of the roman empire.

Yeah I think that's why comparisons to "Rome" are inevitable. However, they are totally different shows, so such comparisons are redundant. Rome did a better job at showing the context of the Roman empire, and Spartacus is about one man's journey as well as the theme of freedom.

There's also the fact that the show makes you question your manhood and makes you want to go work out, but I digress.

[TheEconomist]

There's also the fact that the show makes you question your manhood and makes you want to go work out, but I digress.

What we need now is a sequel with Topher Grace as the lead Gladiator, then it would be epic.

[Gradius]

Ah yes, the nerdy guy from that 70s show. Why would I watch anything with him in it? :P

[TheEconomist]

My question exactly.

Context for joke: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthrea...t=13944&page=3

[The_Blade]

I wouldn't say it was lacking, it's just that I find the pacing weird. Maybe that's just cause the book went slightly differently though.

I think I found the "wierd" part of season two. So many things are happening at once that nothing happens ^^. If they want 10 episodes out of the second book, they will fail at communicating what the book actually meant.

[Jconant]

I think they are splitting the second book into 2 seasons. And i dont blame him if it means they will have the budgeting to make both parts do justice for the book.

CG for the dragons, dire wolves and such are greats expenses that could take away from what money would be needed to include also a large scale battle.

[TheEconomist]

But, then, of course, that makes it more difficulty to finish the rest of the books.