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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    You know what, probably not. Do we know how old Matt Horner is? I think the oldest he could be is...19. O_o

    You know if they retconned the dates of the Guild Wars?
    There is one here: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

    I checked the wiki and they didn't list his age, so I suppose it wasn't given in Queen of Blades. Maybe he is Chuck's son. But probably not.

    Chuck left the Guild Wars sometime after 2485. Assuming he banged his wife the moment he got out of the field, theoretically that would make Matt Horner 15 during Queen of Blades (and, frankly, probably younger; Chuck got promoted to captain before he left). However, Horner had to be at least 18 at the time of QoB; it just wouldn't make sense otherwise.

    Maybe he's Carla's stepson; we weren't told that Chuck didn't reproduce before the Guild Wars. And as mentioned in another post, maybe he procreated with Carla before marriage. It is possible.

    The timing of the Guild Wars cannot be moved more than two years; that would throw so many timeline things out of whack. Valerian's date of birth is already a little wobbly, anything more and it'll look like a Warcraft-timeline fiasco. (Eg Grom Hellscream, who was 40-60 in Warcraft III, depending on which sources you follow.) Arcturus Mengsk's age went from 17 to 38 (his age in StarCraft I) perfectly with no errors at all, and Mr. McNeill specifically pointed out how he tried to stick to the timeline in his blog.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoonx View Post
    Wasn't Matt Horner in the same position of the Hyperion during SC1 era? Or did he become in charge of it simply from Raynor's take over?

    Anyways, a timeline would help greatly lol.
    I don't think Horner was the captain of the Hyperion. Why would Mengsk give up that position to a kid? However, he could have been a ranking officer on the ship. Personally I think he was a mid-ranking officer on a smaller ship. With a smaller crew, he'd have more responsibility and therefore more opportunities to gain some competence.
    Last edited by Kimera757; 09-01-2009 at 06:15 PM.
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  2. #12

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    Wow somebody actually started a thread about this????!?
    I was going to get around to it, because I noticed that similarity myself.
    Although, following the timeline, It would be hard for Chuck to have a son and him be that old to pilot the Hyperion. Not enough time would have passed i believe.

    I checked the Timeline.
    Matt Horner could have been 19 if Chuck had him right away, and now that 4 more years have passed, he is most likely 23.
    Last edited by KillaKhan; 09-01-2009 at 07:08 PM.

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    For some reason, I always thought Matt Horner was the commander you played as in SC's Terran campaign...

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    You can't get a 19 year old Horner from the timeline.

    Queen of Blades took place in 2500. If Horner was 19 then, he would have been born in 2481. The Guild Wars didn't start until 2485.
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    I guess the best arguement for Matt being Chuck's son is that Chuck got busy with his wife before leaving duty. Until then it looks like we will need a more official source. Thanks for the timeline =)

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    Well, you could argue that Matt was born out of wedlock and Chuck then married his mother and settled down with her in order to do the 'responsible thing'.

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    I'm looking at some dates. I can't remember; does I, Mengsk make any mention of Chuck Horner's apparent age? If he had a kid by the time he made lieutenant in 2480, Matt could conceivably be at least 24 by StarCraft II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. peasant View Post
    Well, you could argue that Matt was born out of wedlock and Chuck then married his mother and settled down with her in order to do the 'responsible thing'.
    This is more along the lines of what I was thinking as well.


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    Matt born out of wedlock is the only obvious conclusion given the timeline. The problem is whether it was during or before the Guild Wars. So I guess our best answer is that Chuck met Carla on leave before the Guild Wars.

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    Well, you could argue that Matt was born out of wedlock and Chuck then married his mother and settled down with her in order to do the 'responsible thing'.
    My hypothesis above is kinda based on this. And for all we know, Chuck enlisted in order to make money for his kid, rather than avoid responsibility. Wonder whether the Confederacy intentionally left some of the outlying colonies poorer to encourage them to enlist and bolster their armed forces.
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