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    Default Re: Clunky dialogue to continue in HotS?

    I agree with ZealotPowerade, I would give WoL's story better rating than 0.001, but flatness of all the characters was the biggest downside of WoL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZealotPowerade View Post
    Looking forward... I think I will have to accept that blizzard has become a victim of it's own success. We will never see the kind of story we saw in brood war simply because they want to sell more copies of the game. Admiral DuGalle committing suicide to classical music playing on an antique hi fi while he narrates his final letter to his wife... that's just brilliant. Things like that wont be allowed in HotS or LotV because anything too controversial will drop sales. It's a pity that they've traded artistic integrity for more $$ but I suppose it's something we all have to get used to. I blame Activision.

    I guess what I'm saying is that I'll have to try to enjoy HotS for what it is... A cheesy B movie that I wouldn't go to the theater to see but might rent if extremely bored.

    It's one of my favourite scenes as well, one that really defines what StarCraft is about.

    And I feel pretty much the same about HoTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eligor View Post
    Protoss in SC 2 do seem to have gained a predilection for shocked melodramatic exclamations. Same goes for Zeratul's numerous exclamations of "By the Gods!" and "Gods!" in WoL, and overtly theatrical cryptic warnings.

    So I guess it's just a feature of the current lead writer's style that we'll have to live with.
    It's not that at all. It's the fact that the Protoss in question called a fellow Protoss by a 'race name'. It's like greeting another person with, "Hello, Human." or referring to him as 'Mr. Caucasian'. Using terms like 'brethren', 'comrades', etc would have avoided this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. peasant View Post
    It's not that at all. It's the fact that the Protoss in question called a fellow Protoss by a 'race name'. It's like greeting another person with, "Hello, Human." or referring to him as 'Mr. Caucasian'. Using terms like 'brethren', 'comrades', etc would have avoided this.
    Well, Mengsk does say "Fellow Terrans" in SC 1. But it does make the Protoss sound oddly human and racially supremacist. I just think that this particular odd line is a result of a larger issue with Protoss writing that I mentioned before. Just my opinion though.

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    Fleet of the Executor > Golden Armada

    Fleet of the Executor is a badass name for a fleet and you know you are truly fucked when these guys warp in. You get the vibe that there is a Protoss executioner coming to cut off your head with a psi-blade or psi-guillotine, and that he brought an entire fleet to help. No he's not coming to fight you, because it's not going to be a fight, you are simply going to be executed, not unlike a chicken or a hog.

    But Golden Armada sounds like it's made of protoss sissies, which I guess describes the SC2 protoss well. They can't even survive a little cold temperature and need to turn on their shields whenever a breeze blows through, f*** that.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich_bird View Post
    Most of the voice acting that we thought were placeholders for WoL ended being used in the game. It is fair to expect some improvements but I wouldn't be too optimistic about it.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    Fleet of the Executor > Golden Armada

    Fleet of the Executor is a badass name for a fleet and you know you are truly fucked when these guys warp in. You get the vibe that there is a Protoss executioner coming to cut off your head with a psi-blade or psi-guillotine, and that he brought an entire fleet to help. No he's not coming to fight you, because it's not going to be a fight, you are simply going to be executed, not unlike a chicken or a hog.

    But Golden Armada sounds like it's made of protoss sissies, which I guess describes the SC2 protoss well. They can't even survive a little cold temperature and need to turn on their shields whenever a breeze blows through, f*** that.

    This.
    The Golden Armada recalls both the Spanish Armada and the Golden Horde, which are pretty cool historical allusions (although the Spanish Armada did get defeated by Drake in its very first battle, so may be you're right).

    I still think it's a pretty neat name for a Protoss fleet though, the word "Armada" really does evoke an image of huge and insanely powerful fleet and it has a nice classical ring to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eligor View Post
    Well, Mengsk does say "Fellow Terrans" in SC 1. But it does make the Protoss sound oddly human and racially supremacist. I just think that this particular odd line is a result of a larger issue with Protoss writing that I mentioned before. Just my opinion though.
    I think the phrase 'fellow Terrans' works the same way 'fellow Americans' works; in that the word 'fellow' shows that the person talking and the people s/he is talking to are of the same group, where as its absence makes it sound like the person talking does not belong to the same group as those s/he is talking to.

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    About the voice acting. Brad from Giant Bomb said on their podcast that all of the voices in the demo build were done by the Diablo 3 actors while they had them in the studio recording for D3. NONE of the voices or performances that have been released are with the correct actors.

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    I actually kind of like Izsha's voice.

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    Yeah, they didn't recast Kerrigan a third time. And that's definitely not Tricia Helfer.

    The actress playing Ishza's really familiar to me, though. I'll have to figure out who that is.

    And I think quibbling over stuff like the names of their armies and the way they refer to each other is the least of the dialogue's problems. There's just no passion to anything. There's no dark romanticism. It's all tongue in cheek jokes. There isn't a single conversation in the game that isn't some joke-y kick in the balls to somebody.

    Except conversations that SHOULD be that, like everything Kerrigan says. Instead they've turned Kerrigan into some prophet of doom... and it's... so much less interesting than when she was just a bitchy madwoman.


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