Thor Transportation [Opinions and Suggestions]

[TheEconomist]

What lore evidence is there that a Thor is about the same size as a Colossus?

[Santrega]

What lore evidence is there that a Thor is about the same size as a Colossus?

I don't think anyone said a thor is about the same size as a colossus... I was comparing a thor to tanks, and zealot to colossus... I may have said that I believe a thor and a colossus is comparable in terms of size, from the artwork the colossus looks even taller than what the thor seems to be.

[TheEconomist]

But, what lore evidence is there?

Artwork which doesn't compare them side by side means nothing.

[Visions of Khas]

I favor two possibilities. First, perhaps the Dropship (or possibly the Battlecruiser?) should require an upgrade to either introduce additional cargo space, or tethers/locks to ferry the thing on the outside of the ship. Given that the Thor is a fairly high-priority target, opponents would be able to see these Thor-carrying Dropships and target them.

Alternatively, the Thor could go into a "compact mode" (the closest thing I can think of is packing up a trebuchet for transit in a game like Age of Empires), in which case it could then be loaded aboard a Dropship.

[Santrega]

But, what lore evidence is there?

Artwork which doesn't compare them side by side means nothing.

If i'm not comparing them, why do I need evidence? :?

[Eligor]

Someone said that I have no evidence that the Overlord is considerably smaller than the Ultralisk, so in the interests of better understanding Zerg biology here are a few pictures.


Here are two snapshots of the Ultralisk that give some sense of scale (taken from the StarCraft Ghost opening cinematic):





Here's a screenshot from StarCraft Ghost with an Overlord and a Marine in it (pretty much same distance from each other as the foremost Marine and the Ultralisk in the previous screenshots):



And for those who would argue that even a third person shooter gameplay screenshot would still distort scale here's a "real-life" snapshot of an Overlord and a Mutalisk alongside each other from the Zerg cinematic the Warp (screenshot brightened and captioned for further clarity, the Mualisk and Overlord are equidistant from the camera):



And now think of the fact that in the first StarCraft the Overlord carries two(!) Ultralisks inside itself. The Thor being transported by a Dropship still seems incongruous?

[SpiderBrigade]

Hmm, I don't think you can accurately judge distance in either of those shots since the units are flying in space. I certainly don't think you can assert that the Muta and the Overlord are equidistant.

Do you have realism issues with Overlords carrying Hydralisks? Because a Hydralisk is bigger than a marine and an Overlord can carry 4 of them. Given the scale of the Ultralisks in the first image, I think 2 Hydras are about equivalent to 1 Ultra.

[Pandonetho]

I personally wouldn't take SC: Ghost, a scrapped game, or 11 year old cinematic videos seriously.

Just like on the Amerigo, no way would that Zerg have survived so many shots from the marine, but instead the bullets from his guns just bounced off its forehead carapace.

Similarly, an RPG somehow managed to outdo a gauss rifle in killing Zerglings (BW intro).

But I digress, I've just come to the conclusion that when a Thor is transported in-universe, it's just disassembled and reassembled when dropships are the method of transportation. Merely for the sake of gameplay it doesn't show anything like this.

Alternatively, in-universe they would most likely use other larger carriers to hold Thors.

So I give up on this discussion.

[Eligor]

Hmm, I don't think you can accurately judge distance in either of those shots since the units are flying in space. I certainly don't think you can assert that the Muta and the Overlord are equidistant.

Do you have realism issues with Overlords carrying Hydralisks? Because a Hydralisk is bigger than a marine and an Overlord can carry 4 of them. Given the scale of the Ultralisks in the first image, I think 2 Hydras are about equivalent to 1 Ultra.

If you watch the cinematic you'll see a shot or two more where the Overlord and Mutalisk are clearly the same size. And as a Hydralisk is only slightly bigger than a marine I think that the Ultralisk is definitely bigger than two Hydras.

I personally wouldn't take SC: Ghost, a scrapped game, or 11 year old cinematic videos seriously.

It's a video done by the Blizzard cinematic team using concept art done by Blizzard artists for a game the events of which are still considered canon. This is the best source we have as to Ultralisk size (unlike most Thor representations which were done by non-Blizz guys for spin offs).

Just like on the Amerigo, no way would that Zerg have survived so many shots from the marine, but instead the bullets from his guns just bounced off its forehead carapace.

Actually, that's the only way I can see the Zerg being effective against any sort of Terran firepower on the battlefield.

Similarly, an RPG somehow managed to outdo a gauss rifle in killing Zerglings (BW intro).

Because in real life a bullet is definitely more destructive than a rocket. Your examples of past "incongruities" in Blizzard cinematics are not particularly valid.

[Pandonetho]

It's a video done by the Blizzard cinematic team using concept art done by Blizzard artists for a game the events of which are still considered canon. This is the best source we have as to Ultralisk size (unlike most Thor representations which were done by non-Blizz guys for spin offs).

Doesn't mean its accurate. They had limited technology, and things they did in the cinematic videos didn't even make sense.

Hell, I don't even know why they were fighting the Zerg in trenches in the BW intro, trenches would be completely useless against the Zerg.

Actually, that's the only way I can see the Zerg being effective against any sort of Terran firepower on the battlefield.

Uh, I'm sure you watched the SC:Ghost video, it's much more accurate than any cinematic from the game. Zerglings die to a couple of shots, and I'm pretty sure my eyes weren't lying when I saw that Terran force getting raped.

Because in real life a bullet is definitely more destructive than a rocket. Your examples of past "incongruities" in Blizzard cinematics are not particularly valid.

Um, what?