Thor Transportation [Opinions and Suggestions]

[DemolitionSquid]

You're right. That's a huge problem.

Oh wait... doesn't the Colossus take up more room than a Zealot?

That's what I said... Colossus takes up more memory because its a bigger unit.

[Santrega]

You're right. That's a huge problem.

Oh wait... doesn't the Colossus take up more room than a Zealot?

Hmm, since there is clearly still a limit to the memory, if it can't have as many units as it wants inside of it... and a zealot is still going to take up very little space compared to a colossus...

It still doesn't make sense in terms of size as a zealot is not even close to even 1/16th of a colossus...

Maybe they have really good memory compression techniques they use for a colossus :-P

Edit - So why don't they compress the memory of all the units? I dont know :-(, maybe it should be an upgrade.. I'll make a thread...

[pure.Wasted]

That's what I said... Colossus takes up more memory because its a bigger unit.

Then you should have no bone to pick with mr. peasant's comment. He didn't say size does not matter; only pointed out that the comparison is not so straight-forward as visuals might indicate.

[mr. peasant]

That's what I said... Colossus takes up more memory because its a bigger unit.

But the volume the Colossus occupies is no longer a limiting factor. Rather, it's the amount of energy/data the Colossus equals to and the storage capacity of the Warp Prism. And seeing as how a flash drive the size of your thumb can store 64 GB in today's technology, one can only imagine the storage power the Protoss has.

[DemolitionSquid]

Humm... it does indeed appear I misread the conversation.

My apologies.

[Santrega]

But the volume the Colossus occupies is no longer a limiting factor. Rather, it's the amount of energy/data the Colossus equals to and the storage capacity of the Warp Prism. And seeing as how a flash drive the size of your thumb can store 64 GB in today's technology, one can only imagine the storage power the Protoss has.

Well its still a size, just a different kind of size. Also, it doesn't matter how enormous their storage power is, the bigger it gets the more zealots you should be able to fit into the prism compared to a colossus. For example:

Say a Zealot is 1 MB, and it can only fit 4 Zealots into a prism. Thats a space limit of 4MB, but can you really believe a colossus takes up only 4 MB when a zealot takes up 1? Is a Zealot really 1/4th the size of a colossus?

[pure.Wasted]

Say a Zealot is 1 MB, and it can only fit 4 Zealots into a prism. Thats a space limit of 4MB, but can you really believe a colossus takes up only 4 MB when a zealot takes up 1? Is a Zealot really 1/4th the size of a colossus?

But that's the point, it's not about size. The space division is decided by factors we don't know/understand. For example, maybe it's ten times more difficult to translate a living, functional brain than it is a computer chip that only simulates brain activity.

[mr. peasant]

Well its still a size, just a different kind of size. Also, it doesn't matter how enormous their storage power is, the bigger it gets the more zealots you should be able to fit into the prism compared to a colossus. For example:

Say a Zealot is 1 MB, and it can only fit 4 Zealots into a prism. Thats a space limit of 4MB, but can you really believe a colossus takes up only 4 MB when a zealot takes up 1? Is a Zealot really 1/4th the size of a colossus?

It depends on how much more complex a Colossus is compared to a Zealot. For instance, a human brain probably contains more data than a block of wood. Heck, I'm pretty sure this issue of yours is even worse with Medivacs, Overlords and the SC1 transports. Is a Marine 1/4th the size of a Siege Tank? I think it's safe to say all that is based more on balance and relative size.

[Santrega]

It depends on how much more complex a Colossus is compared to a Zealot. For instance, a human brain probably contains more data than a block of wood. Heck, I'm pretty sure this issue of yours is even worse with Medivacs, Overlords and the SC1 transports. Is a Marine 1/4th the size of a Siege Tank? I think it's safe to say all that is based more on balance and relative size.

Well, I agree with you somewhat, but I think the comparison between a tank and a marine is a closer than a marine and a thor, or colossus and zealot. Considering 5 tanks probably don't equal a thor...

Also, if i'm not mistaken, don't even the mechanical units belonging to protoss have protoss soldiers in them? The lore states that the injured soldiers get placed in the mechanical units right? So the brain thing probably won't be a good way to go.

Edit - Apparently colossus is one of the units purely mechanical. I talked to a friend who is a big lore guy, he said that Reaver, Colossus, Phase prism, observer, and probe are fully mechanical, and only stalkers/immortals/dragoons have wounded soldiers put in them.

[MattII]

Could we solve it by giving the Prism a transport matrix capable of taking 12 spaces worth of, and then setting all massive units to that size? as for Thor transport, I'm all for the Thor moving like a building.