Thor Transportation [Opinions and Suggestions]

[ManjiSanji]

This whole argument is exactly why the size of the Thor is just stupid.

They should have never said that it couldn't be transported. The Colossus can, the Ultralisk can, Siege Tanks can, but everybody is throwing a big hissy fit about the Thor. Of course it should be transportable, and no, it shouldn't be by the Monty Python, "Swallow carrying a coconut" method.

Size has no real relevance in this game. Battlecruisers and Carriers are as big as a few infantry units, and can even be killed by a fairly small number. Do you think that would be the case if this were anything remotely close to reality?

Let's just let the Medivac carry the Thor and move on =|

[Pandonetho]

Size has no real relevance in this game. Battlecruisers and Carriers are as big as a few infantry units, and can even be killed by a fairly small number. Do you think that would be the case if this were anything remotely close to reality?

People using battlecruisers and carriers for size in a debate about realism are just wrong. Battlecruisers are obviously huge, but they don't contradict anything.

Unlike the Thor, "Oh yeah these babies can be transported in dropships" which is a direct contradiction to how the actual universe works because Thors are like 5x the size of a dropship. Fitting "2 siege tanks" is a whole different story. First of all, no one here seems to take account that the shapes are completely different, you think a Thor is just going to lie flat on its stomach and go into a dropship or something? Ridiculous.

As for people who couldn't care less about the realism, they really should just stay out of the conversation because they have nothing to contribute except for bringing up other points like "a battlecruiser is as big as 5 marines so why shouldn't a Thor be able to fit into a dropship? It's smaller than a battlecruiser!!!111"

[Rizhall]

How about the Thor has to compact itself before it can be transported. Before you can fit it into a medivac, you have to spend some time converting it into a lifeless hunk of steal, like the former dead mode of the Thor, and THEN you can carry it around.
Upon dropping it in the desired location, you have to spend a little more time having it go into it's normal form before it can move and attack.

[RainbowToeSocks]

How about the Thor has to compact itself before it can be transported. Before you can fit it into a medivac, you have to spend some time converting it into a lifeless hunk of steal, like the former dead mode of the Thor, and THEN you can carry it around.
Upon dropping it in the desired location, you have to spend a little more time having it go into it's normal form before it can move and attack.

I basically said the same thing early into this thread

[Pandonetho]

Those are far fetched mechanics though. Although it makes more sense lore wise, it'd probably be bad for gameplay.

Even though it's a problem in the lore, for the sake of gameplay if everyone wants to have a transportable Thor then I'd be fine with it being transportable through the dropship.

I don't know what the big deal is though with everyone crying foul about why the Thor can't be transported. Big deal? A unit can't be transported and everyone acts like it's the end of SC as we know it because they changed a little rule and everyone goes on to negatively theorycraft the hell out of why "non-transportable thors = bad!"

We never see island maps in any matches anyway, so island maps aren't even a large issue on this.

I don't see why no one is complaining that the Ultralisk can't burrow in SC1 and now every Zerg unit can.

[TheEconomist]

Guys, either you forgive the fact that a Thor shouldn't be in a dropship and move on or you don't accept it and don't think it should be in a dropship. There's really no way a Thor can realistically fit in a dropship unless they increase its size for this sole purpose so let's stop ignoring how big the Thor really is and move on.

@Rizhall: Implementing that would be useless. The Thor already isn't made to be a replacement for the Tank or Battlecruiser. It's damn anti-air unit. So, this would just make it less useful. If you're going to drop a Thor, you might as well drop a few tanks with a Battlecruiser.

[DemolitionSquid]

Guys, either you forgive the fact that a Thor shouldn't be in a dropship and move on or you don't accept it and don't think it should be in a dropship. There's really no way a Thor can realistically fit in a dropship unless they increase its size for this sole purpose so let's stop ignoring how big the Thor really is and move on.

Guys, either you accept the fact that a Thor should be in a MedEvac and move on, or you're wrong. There's really a very logical way a Thor can realistically fit in a MedEvac by decreasing its size for this sole purpose, so let's stop ignoring how the lore isn't set yet and move on.

[TheEconomist]

... which is exactly what I've been saying this entire topic ...

I hope you only quoted my post because of similar delivery lines and not because you were countering it.

[DemolitionSquid]

... which is exactly what I've been saying this entire topic ...

I hope you only quoted my post because of similar delivery lines and not because you were countering it.

I was simplifying it.

Thors SHOULD be transportable by MedEvac.

/thread.

[TheEconomist]

I'd say so. People need to realize that, with the way the lore is, a Thor cannot be transported at all without forgiving a few things so we need to stop wasting time by explaining certain obvious truths away. But, again, I wouldn't be opposed to them making the Medivacs bigger (Although it might make it so that it has to be able to carry more units) or the Thor smaller.

I'd rather the Thor stay monstrously huge, though, because I think it's bad ass ... but I don't want to hinder the gameplay.

That being said, if we're going to alter so much of the game to be able to drop the Thor then we're going to need to make the Thor a unit that makes you want to drop it.

An anti-air unit isn't really something you're going to want to work so hard to drop ...