4Gate will get fixed in patch 1.3.3

[DesertRose]

Hello to you, Protoss players. I am coming with a gift of information that some of you may find interesting!

We have been looking into the 4gate issue and our designers have played with a lot of different fixes and changes, even those that were not strictly numbers related. While strong, 4gate is a lesser problem in other matchups, but we recognize that PvP is a different story.

Just throwing a nerf bat at warpgates would make protoss weak in early game. This is why we are currently looking at increasing warpgate research time, while at the same time compensating for it with reducing build time of protoss tier 1-1.5 units (though build times reduced only for gateways, cooldowns will stay the same for warpgates). This is an example of a fix you may see, but our developers plan to explore further options, before the patch officially hits.

We will address 4gate in the next patch.

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/to...9389?page=2#21

[Peanutbutter]

Hell. It's about time!

[TheEconomist]

Meh, I don't know. Wouldn't this require people to learn new strategies. Seems like tons of Diamonds are going to be playing like Bronzes for a few weeks afterwards. That's during the summer, soiunds like a good time to level up grind.

[JackhammerIV]

Ummmmm...it won't affect just Diamonds. Every single Protoss player will have to redo and rethink their openings. If you realise most protosses now whether on offensive or defensive will time it so that their gateways finish when warp gate finishes and warp in 2-4 units. Let's take for example a 3 gate pressure in PvT. Warp gate finishes at around 6mins and protoss can pressure with 6 units.

Depending how they adjust the build times for gateway units and the warp gate research time it might open a hole in early protoss play. And a problem is....they'll probably put it on PTR in NA only meaning only NA server protosses get to play with it to get used to it and figure out a new opening build order.

A problem might arise where normally a protoss on 2-3 gates will have e.g. 6 units will suddenly have only 4-5 units after the change. Then the timings for resources will feel all off with a changed gateway unit time. It might end up all protosses get a zeal then a sentry so that they can put down a quicker second gateway in order to match the number of units pre-change. That brings up another problem of now with a sentry being the norm scouts can stay in protoss base much much longer.

[Todie]

Meh, I don't know. Wouldn't this require people to learn new strategies. Seems like tons of Diamonds are going to be playing like Bronzes for a few weeks afterwards. That's during the summer, soiunds like a good time to level up grind.

... well, they'll have to learn some time!


case in point: i recently played against a P that seemed to ave a quite onesided gateway-heavy approach, looked him up after and saw, though diamond now, he was silver at the end of season one.

not that this proves anything, its just a relevant illustration of how gung-ho gateway aggression can take you quite far quite fast based on what mgiht be a limited skillset.

[TheEconomist]

Ummmmm...it won't affect just Diamonds.

*sigh*

I was making a joke which meant to say a lot of diamonds only know how to play 4gate and, therefore, will now play like bronze because they don't know anything else. I would've made the same joke if Mauraders were nerfed. Doesn't mean anything more than that.

[JackhammerIV]

*sigh*

I was making a joke which meant to say a lot of diamonds only know how to play 4gate and, therefore, will now play like bronze because they don't know anything else. I would've made the same joke if Mauraders were nerfed. Doesn't mean anything more than that.

Oh ok. Well technically you can 4gate your way to masters. So perhaps the joke has to updated.:P

[GnaReffotsirk]

And yet mules remain untouched. Reduce mule life span please?

[Twilice]

Technically you can cannon rush your way to grandmasters.

[TheEconomist]

Well technically you can 4gate your way to masters.

Not really. That could be a player's main, but, by that time, they've had to adjust to something that made the 4gate fail at least a few times. Diamond, however, at least in the lower parts, you can DEFINITELY get there on 4gate only.