First look at HotS in May.

[TheEconomist]

They don't even need that. Thankfully, it's no stretch of the lore to have some Aldaris-esque "allying with the Zerg is heresy!" type of leader.

[DemolitionSquid]

250mm cannons > immortals

They wtfpwn immortals!

Oh joy, so Thor's get an upgrade to "hard counter" the unit that was basically meant to "hard counter" it first. Brilliant game design, totally revolutionary.

Seriously, what other units do you waste that research on? Aside from Immortals, there's like only Seige Tanks and Ultralisks worth using 250MM on. But the Thor's regular attack basically kills things at the same DPS as the 250MM... so the only reason to use the 250MM then is for the stun... which doesn't even effect Ultralisks due to Frenzy.

I call shenanigans.

[Twilice]

250 mm cannon > colossus

[RamiZ]

Oh joy, so Thor's get an upgrade to "hard counter" the unit that was basically meant to "hard counter" it first. Brilliant game design, totally revolutionary.

Seriously, what other units do you waste that research on? Aside from Immortals, there's like only Seige Tanks and Ultralisks worth using 250MM on. But the Thor's regular attack basically kills things at the same DPS as the 250MM... so the only reason to use the 250MM then is for the stun... which doesn't even effect Ultralisks due to Frenzy.

I call shenanigans.

Did you see ThorZain vs. Tyler at TSL3? First game, Tyler had Zealots, Stalkers and 7 Colossi. ThorZain didn't make Vikings, but Thors, and wiped the floor with Tyler's Colossi completely. You can't kite Archons anymore, so it is pretty great to use it on them too, for the stun as you say. Don't know, I think that that upgrade is pretty underused. It also can be used on buildings, which is sick.

[phazonjunkie]

250 mm cannon > colossus

250 mm cannon > everything on the ground. But I don't think that's his point.

Effective ≠ COST effective
Possibility ≠ practicality

The fact remains that the Thor's strike cannon, as it is, is a niche abilty at best. Redundant and uninspired at worst.

But I suppose this thread's been hijacked enough. So...who's excited for next week?

[Twilice]

Are you saying 250 mm cannon is good vs zerglings? Lol.

They are good vs 4 things, other thors / immortals / colossus / archons.

[JackhammerIV]

Are you saying 250 mm cannon is good vs zerglings? Lol.

They are good vs 4 things, other thors / immortals / colossus / archons.

We should spread out advice to use 250mm cannon on stalkers. Would really make it easier for protoss to deal with thors.

[phazonjunkie]

Are you saying 250 mm cannon is good vs zerglings? Lol.

They are good vs 4 things, other thors / immortals / colossus / archons.

Yes, but the immortal is the only unit that's actually worth it.

We should spread out advice to use 250mm cannon on stalkers. Would really make it easier for protoss to deal with thors.

sigh.........

[Gradius]

250 mm cannon > everything on the ground. But I don't think that's his point.

Effective ≠ COST effective
Possibility ≠ practicality

The fact remains that the Thor's strike cannon, as it is, is a niche abilty at best. Redundant and uninspired at worst.

Last patch it was used all the time and there were thor rush strategies vs. protoss that focused on getting the research quickly. It was borderline OP. This patch they just made the starting energy too low.

But the Thor's regular attack basically kills things at the same DPS as the 250MM

Not really no. Isn't it about time you got done with your vacation in theorycraft-land?

[TheEconomist]

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/plungi...rg-swarm/3274/

Dinner is served.