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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinbrowder View Post
    you call street fighter e-sports? this shows you have no clue what you are talking about.

    Its like calling throwing stone an athletic competition. Get a grip man and don't write nonsense.

    I'm telling you if there aren't big numbers of people playing there can not be e-sports.
    Believe it or not, Street Fighter is an incredibly hard game to get a skill level at which you could even try to be competitve. I could never remember all the controller button combos for even 1 character's special moves. Consider that most characters have had there moves made more complex as the game has evolved, and you have an extraordinary amount of memory needed to play this game. I personally find SC1 and SC2 much easier because I can win without so much energy burned on memory.

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    @dustinbrowder: Please refrain from posting until exams are over. Each time you post, some poor soul who stumbled upon your mess will spend six hours trying to get such a silly but contagious idea of his/her head (meanwhile, being completely unproductive in the academics department) while the others will spend thirty minutes trying to resist the urge to respond, eight hours trying to lower his thinking to your level to understand what you're saying in order to counter it, and an hour typing and retyping something that he/she thinks you will be hard pressed to find some kind of misinterpretation in the hopes of avoiding a restart to the whole cycle.

    On behalf of my fellow college goers, please, stop it. We know you're going for the Ferrous Craneous crown but you don't need to trample on our dreams of college success whilst you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilice View Post
    I got over 3000 bonus points in my pool and I just got promoted to masters in 2v2. (I lost 3 times and then I won once to get promoted I wanted to get into masters 1v1 but failed I figured I would have a pretty high mmr in 2v2 so went to try there a bit, the gameplay was much different from what I remember so I felt pretty stomped some parts of those and sometimes I were just mad at how bad my teammates actually were :P Ah well I have today to get into masters ^^)
    uhh...what's MMR haha?
    ugh I didn't get such luck. I spent my weekend stomping people in 2v2's (I'm diamond right now in top 30) but no luck...I think I got screwed over by playing in the middle of the day...

    So many poorly matched teams......anywhere from me+a gold person vs 2 diamonds.

    OH WELL - Next season!

    Oh and ROFL at DB's comment. I'm not even going to bother anymore.


    Quote Originally Posted by dustinbrowder View Post
    You are very weird man. Have you no logic?
    And again you had to be pretty big noob about PC not to know about the change, I mean even the birds on the trees knew about it.

    ...Its like calling throwing stone an athletic competition. Get a grip man and don't write nonsense...
    Shot put anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinbrowder View Post
    you call street fighter e-sports? this shows you have no clue what you are talking about.

    Its like calling throwing stone an athletic competition. Get a grip man and don't write nonsense.

    I'm telling you if there aren't big numbers of people playing there can not be e-sports.
    Speaking of "no clue what you are talking about..."

    Street Fighter 4 was part of the Lineup of World Cyber Games 2009. It has it's own e-sports starts such as Justin "Marvelous" Wong, Ryan "gootecks" Gutierrez and Joe "ILOVEU" Ciaremelli. Which have had a documentary made about them that's being considered to be produced for TV by two funders.

    Street Fighter 2/3/4 has a verbose history of competition that's not readily documented online. It's first competition that involved an audience and nationwide publicity was in 1992, which was the year that Dune 2 was released. StarCraft wasn't even a concept yet. (Which included flyers sent out to arcades worldwide)

    The Street Fighter has seen more TV time outside of Korea than StarCraft or StarCraft II combined in terms of competition as it was part of the rotation of games on Arena on G4, and is a staple in Video Gaming Reality shows and Video Game Competitions (such as "The Tester") [Disclaimer: I may be wrong about the TV point as my limited knowledge on European TV, but to my knowledge that statement is right. If I'm wrong, just provide a heads up to knowledge about it and I'll smile and admit so.]

    Dustin, to say that Street Fighter 4 is not an eSport is about as ignorant as you can get. That's like saying that Wrestling, Swimming, Running, Irish Caper Toss are not sports. It may not be as popular as a televised sport like Basketball, Hockey, Football, Soccer, Rugby... but it doesn't change the fact that they are sports that cater to smaller audiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinsWage View Post
    Does the WMBA count as a sport? What about Soccer in the U.S.? Just because it's not what's popular doesn't deny something it's existence or rightful place in the pantheon.

    Any game where there are tournaments held with spectators involved and actual money on the line count as e-sports or professional gaming. Just because you don't want to accept it doesn't make it so.

    Also, caber toss wants to have a word with you.
    so you represent the stupid notion if there are 2 players competing its e-sports crap?

    If that is the case every freaking game ever made is an e-sports, don't be so mindless.

    You have to have people, a lot of people to call it e-sports, otherwise its just not viable.

    Again, its like calling throwing stone an Olympic competition.

    And stop being stupid people, I'm not calling SF 4 or whatever version not having potential or whatever, its just not viable unless there are millions of viewers. Then even some random game with 1000 people playing overall in a small street specific tournament can be called e-sports. Get a grip!
    Last edited by dustinbrowder; 03-23-2011 at 05:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinbrowder View Post
    Again, its like calling throwing stone an Olympic competition.
    That's sounding more and more like shotput.:P LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinbrowder View Post
    If that is the case every freaking game ever made is an e-sports, don't be so mindless.
    No, only the ones that get a lot of sponsorship and viewers.

    Again, its like calling throwing stone an Olympic competition.
    Oh good. Since "throwing stones" is an Olymptic competition, you must be acknowledging the truthfulness now.

    *whew*

    Seriously though, I'm going to have to pull a hyde and quote that so that it can be preserved for future generations. This was brilliant! I feel like we're back in pre-beta GameFAQs. Such entertaining times!

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    Dustin, your thoughts on my post? You have an uncanny ability to avoid them
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    Stones, litterly stones
    am I the only one who got it?
    seriously...

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    If you interpreted throwing stones as a metaphor for the verbal "throwing" we're doing then, no, you're projecting. Dustin doesn't understand the language enough for such complex usages. I actually don't mean any offense from that though. Jus' sayin'

    If not, then you must need to be the target of numerous rants to have the experience necessary to interpret such a simple statement in a such a way.



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