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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid View Post
    Dr. Hanson doesn't sound anything like Liara.
    I think she does for sure. It's a little rougher, but it sounds a lot like the same actress. She actually has a pretty distinctive voice.

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    To me, she's mocking and amused in the same way that a female Smallville villain is mocking and amused (and bitchy) after discovering how powerful she is with whatever newfound powers she acquired, and you just wish that Clark Kent would give her a tight slap :P.
    Wut? Kerrigan sounds anamalistic and motherly (in a twisted way) while sounding sophisticated, arrogant and cunning.

    Strassman hasn't really captured those first two aspects yet as far as I've seen.

    Please Blizzard, if you have any sense in your brains at all you will get Glynnis back the way you did with Clotworthy.
    Unfortunately, I doubt it's going to happen at this point.

    At Blizzcon, what I'm most anxious to hear is why they think Strassman makes a good Kerrigan. That'd abate me quite a bit.

    EDIT: Also, I have to say, "Old Rivals" really is the perfect title for this cinematic.
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    Yeah, more than 7 pages of posting and nobody cared to do what should've been done from the start.
    Here - a little comparison in mp3:

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/642629268501f966

    (new one -> old one -> new one -> old one)

    And honestly it purely subjective decision. Both are equally professional. Glynnis talks a bit too fast here, Strassman a bit too slow (though I love her laugh for some reason). Glyniss might be better sound-wise overall but the Strassman fits just better... at least for me. And I know that some people will disagree, that's why I said SUBJECTIVE.
    Just stop forcing down other people throats that Strassman voice acting is bad or don't fit, 'cause it's bollocks. Just bollocks :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendzlov View Post
    Just stop forcing down other people throats that Strassman voice acting is bad or don't fit, 'cause it's bollocks. Just bollocks :]
    Nobody in this topic has done that... I think I've been pretty fair to the Strassman performance, saying what suits the character, and I've actually been trying to avoid just saying 'omg it sux'.

    And no, it's not entirely subjective. Whether or not someone likes it is, sure, whether it fits how the character is portrayed is not.


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    lmao, freaking leave for 12 hours and news explode lol

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    Wow, first, this video is AWESOME in HD! A bit less exciting than the last camcorded with all the fans crying. That was even more epic.

    But in HD, we really feel all the atmosphere! We even hear Kerrigan's high heels walk!!!! That is quiet cool, think that she is still a lady, but evil.. That remembers me the kind of movies where the cute girl turns out to be the evil one and walks behind the hero.

    As for the voice acting. The first Strassman's tape of the queen of blade speech left me with a weird feeling. She was acting a bit too hard.

    This time, she nearly nailed it. It's quiet the same feeling as we are all expecting, tho this time it's a bit too.... calm. But I don't know if it's because I just watch a million times the : "I knew you'd find your way here, eventualy" part. LIKE IN LOOP.

    It's different, but I like what I heard, not quiet exactly the same as glynnis, but still pretty damn good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldrius View Post
    And no, it's not entirely subjective. Whether or not someone likes it is, sure, whether it fits how the character is portrayed is not.
    See, this is where you seem to stop understanding word "subjective". You're talking about what better fits and better portrays character FOR YOU. Just because other people (or even more people) agrees with you doesn't mean you're nessesarily right (or wrong). Because there is NO right or wrong here. That is what people saying "stop bitching" (not literally of course) or "get over it" tried to tell from the very begining of this topic. That there is NO POINT in this discussion.
    It's not like Blizzard have chosen some random actress. Belive me, they've probably spent weeks or months looking for Strassman, just to get Kerrigan like they wanted to. 'Cause it's Blizzard who knows this character best not you or anyone here by that matter. And if you think that's not true... why are you their fans in the first place?! What, 'cause right until this point everything was as you liked, but now that it isn't, you're offended? Well, what can I say - some major chill required!

    And sadly I know that you'll still won't agree and this pointless discussion will probably go on and on. I kinda understand that. It's just how human nature and respectively internet works. Everybody will to prove they opinions, no matter how pointless result might be.
    'Cause in the end what will this disscusion bring other than - "they're wrong, this is why I'm right" (in lesser or in greater extent)? It's not like you're gonna change anything :]
    Changes - even though sometimes hard - in the end might pay off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendzlov View Post
    Yeah, more than 7 pages of posting and nobody cared to do what should've been done from the start.
    Here - a little comparison in mp3:

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/642629268501f966

    (new one -> old one -> new one -> old one)
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    honestly again here, after hearing it side by side, i wonder why blizzard had the need to change original kerrigan .. its soo cool when u hear the old voice that it reminds me straight to the moment when jim and sarah first met and she called him pig for thinking how hot she was and he didnt even say it, i mean u can hear old, human kerring in her voice still and thats what makes it better then the new one. the new one dont bring back memories when u clicked sarah over and over and over ... get it, clicked?
    Last edited by mgcemir; 08-17-2009 at 05:01 PM.

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    See, this is where you seem to stop understanding word "subjective". You're talking about what better fits and better portrays character FOR YOU.
    For me, fine, and I think I have a good grasp on the character, because yes, I do consider myself a writer, and a pretty good fiction analyst. Just because I don't work for Blizzard doesn't mean that I don't or that I'm not.

    Just because other people (or even more people) agrees with you doesn't mean you're nessesarily right (or wrong). Because there is NO right or wrong here. That is what people saying "stop bitching" (not literally of course) or "get over it" tried to tell from the very begining of this topic. That there is NO POINT in this discussion.
    I'm not bitching. I wish people would stop bloody accusing me of 'bitching'. I've been MORE than fair to the new performance. Just because I don't blindly accept every creative decision Blizzard's made in the past 4 years doesn't mean I'm a whiny prepubescent who wants everything to stay the same.

    And there is right or wrong in this instance (well 'right or wrong' is not really accurate), and there is a point to this discussion, comparing the qualities that both actresses bring to the role. Kerrigan was portrayed a certain way in Brood War, a direction that Blizzard seems to want to continue in StarCraft 2 based on the way the dialogue is written.

    Yet they've cast an actress who plays the lines very differently, which in turn makes Kerrigan into a very different character. Why would they do this? I don't understand it.

    It's not like Blizzard have chosen some random actress. Belive me, they've probably spent weeks or months looking for Strassman, just to get Kerrigan like they wanted to. 'Cause it's Blizzard who knows this character best not you or anyone here by that matter.
    Based on the dialogue I'd say they know her as well as they ever did, but the recasting just implies the reverse. They might be taking the character in a completely different direction, and I guess that's fine, but thus far I haven't seen that, except in the voice.

    And I still don't understand what the POINT was to the recasting. She doesn't sound that much 'better'. She's not that creepy, she's not that vicious, she's just haughty, imposing and aloof more than anything. Which isn't all there is to the character. And yes, there is the element where she doesn't sound like the Kerrigan I'm familiar with. Again, consistency is important. Especially when you make such a major change to the characters visual and expect us to keep caring.

    At this point, she's not Kerrigan.

    And if you think that's not true... why are you their fans in the first place?!
    Because in the past they've had a lot of talent and have done a lot of creative things, and they still do every once in a while. Their stuff has just become horribly inconsistent and extremely cliche at times. (Mostly talking about WoW here, though... StarCraft 2 isn't even out yet, though I find a few of their creative decisions questionable.)

    What, 'cause right until this point everything was as you liked, but now that it isn't, you're offended? Well, what can I say - some major chill required!
    Everything was not as I liked it before this point. But they had her cast, they said she sounded good, then they decided to recast her. I don't understand why. It doesn't make any sense. There's absolutely no reason for it -- it's completely irrational and I want an explanation for it. From Blizzard. But they proably won't give me one. Oh well.
    Last edited by Aldrius; 08-17-2009 at 05:17 PM.


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    It's clear that Blizzard listens to some extent. I doubt that there's any argument that the old VA for Raynor up until now did a better job. He did well, and I wouldn't say that he's a bad voice actor, but Robert Clotworthy fits the part better for a variety of reasons, and hearing him in the new singleplayer gameplay footage just sounds... right.

    I don't think that Karen Strassman does a bad job with Kerrigan's character at all. That being said, I don't really like it. I think that, like with Raynor in the beginning, if they don't change it, I'll probably learn to live with it, but it won't stop me from voicing my opinion up until then that I think that they should re-cast Glynnis as Kerrigan. It brought me back into Raynor's character, and after that, I don't see any reason for them not to do it - especially if they're pushing for StarCraft to be all it can be. If the original voice actors are excellent, willing, and more-so, WANT to do the part, what on earth is keeping that from happening? As the saying goes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendzlov View Post
    That is what people saying "stop bitching" (not literally of course) or "get over it" tried to tell from the very begining of this topic. That there is NO POINT in this discussion.
    So what's the 'point' of your post? Just to tell us there is no point in discussing matters that are important to us, regarding sc2, on a sc2 forum. I hate people who keep shooting down conversations because of there being no 'point' to them. Really, once the game comes out, there's going to be no point to this forum anymore cuz we're going to be hidden in dark damp dungeons playing this goddamn starcrack till the brink of dawn. And yes, the actress recast won't affect whether or not I buy the game, but it doesn't mean I can't prefer the original actress does it? Just because you're apathetic about this cause, don't expect everyone else to be.

    It's not like Blizzard have chosen some random actress. Belive me, they've probably spent weeks or months looking for Strassman, just to get Kerrigan like they wanted to. 'Cause it's Blizzard who knows this character best not you or anyone here by that matter. And if you think that's not true... why are you their fans in the first place?! What, 'cause right until this point everything was as you liked, but now that it isn't, you're offended? Well, what can I say - some major chill required!
    They're making this game for the fans right? Not just for their own shits and giggles. It's irrelevent posts like yours that make us not chilled.

    And sadly I know that you'll still won't agree and this pointless discussion will probably go on and on. I kinda understand that. It's just how human nature and respectively internet works. Everybody will to prove they opinions, no matter how pointless result might be.
    'Cause in the end what will this disscusion bring other than - "they're wrong, this is why I'm right" (in lesser or in greater extent)? It's not like you're gonna change anything :]
    What about Clotworthy? He was brought back as a direct result of fan outroar. So quit your pointless posting and let us carry on with our discussions.

    Unfortunately another aspect of the internet you seemed to disregard is how you're taking all of our discussion as 'bitching'. Everyone on the internet voicing an opinion, is always 'bitching'. It's like there's no room for discussion? Are we all just supposed to post "Hail Blizzard" repeatedly till the game comes out? i think not.

    Besides, Karen's laugh sounds like the Count from Sesame Street 'ha ha ha ha one coconut, two coconut, three COCOnut!'

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