Zerg "macro" idea -- reabsorption

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Originally Posted by SaharaDrac

Ermmm...don't all workers bring in 5 minerals per trip, and every races workers mining time is exactly the same?

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protoss have proton charge, and they can make probes work faster. Mules just start bringing in insaine amounts of minerals and im not sure if gas. Zerg can build many units, my point is with what extra minerals.

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Originally Posted by Islandsnake

Would be crazy in the late late game when instead of killing of drones for extra supply you actually get paid for it lol.


And with the new larva mechanic I feel that zerg will have enough larva too produce drones and units just fine

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Except in both BR's it was in, the Zerg player was unable to keep up with the opposing team's economy. Moreover, in the TvZ one, the Terrans were able to outproduce and outmass the Zerg. Lastly, at worker saturation, the Zerg will be severely outmatched in resource gathering.

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Originally Posted by The_Blade

protoss have proton charge, and they can make probes work faster. Mules just start bringing in insaine amounts of minerals and im not sure if gas. Zerg can build many units, my point is with what extra minerals.

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They bring in extra minerals for a set, short amount of time. Extra drones built from extra larvae mine forever.

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Originally Posted by SaharaDrac

They bring in extra minerals for a set, short amount of time. Extra drones built from extra larvae mine forever.

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larvas won't mine untill you invest 50 mins on each

Hmm, I think a Nydus Network can have this "Consume/Absorption" macro ability. It's at the perfect tier, the perfect graphical implication (giant organic grinder/blender) and macro-based transportation to relate to.

I think the Hatchery has enough things crammed into its UI interface already.


-Psi

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Originally Posted by The_Blade

larvas won't mine untill you invest 50 mins on each

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Yesss...i know. Then they mine hundreds and hundreds and thousands of minerals, not stopping until there are no more minerals on the map or until they die.

Spawn Larvae = economy boost. I don't think many people question this.

I would like to hear from the person who proposed this idea to answer my original question: What makes this better for the game than Spawn Larvae?

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Originally Posted by mr. peasant

Except in both BR's it was in, the Zerg player was unable to keep up with the opposing team's economy. Moreover, in the TvZ one, the Terrans were able to outproduce and outmass the Zerg. Lastly, at worker saturation, the Zerg will be severely outmatched in resource gathering.

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I hear BRs are a great way to decide balance.


People win with zerg all the time, they have the numbers and they wont let everyone else mine more than zerg.

I think spawn larva is probably the most powerful mechanic being able to save all that larva up could be pretty nifty. Plus queens are cheaper than extra hatchery's I think? Thats a big boost as well

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Originally Posted by Islandsnake

I hear BRs are a great way to decide balance.


People win with zerg all the time, they have the numbers and they wont let everyone else mine more than zerg.

I think spawn larva is probably the most powerful mechanic being able to save all that larva up could be pretty nifty. Plus queens are cheaper than extra hatchery's I think? Thats a big boost as well

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Agreed. People read really far too deeply into the BRs...that's not what the Battle Reports were for. The Zerg player was clearly less practiced and less skilled than David "Bonjwa Supreme" Kim. He lost because he didn't play as well, not because Zerg needs a new Macro mechanic, because Stalkers Blinked away, or any other reason you can cite from BR3.

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Originally Posted by SaharaDrac

Agreed. People read really far too deeply into the BRs...that's not what the Battle Reports were for. The Zerg player was clearly less practiced and less skilled than David "Bonjwa Supreme" Kim. He lost because he didn't play as well, not because Zerg needs a new Macro mechanic, because Stalkers Blinked away, or any other reason you can cite from BR3.

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While that is indeed true, the Devs themselves admit that Zerg needs the most work right now, and I'd tend to believe them.

I agree with PsiWarp: if this was to be implemented it would be perfect for the Nydus network. Placing it there wouldn't give the Zerg too much of an advantage or disadvantage either way and it might even encourage building the Nydus Network, which appears to be very underused by all accounts I've read.

Thanks Xyvik, here's for reference:

http://www.sc2pod.com/w/images/0/0f/Nydus_Network.jpg

If those teeth are not for chewing and breaking bones, I don't know what they are for.


-Psi