Unfortunately, I can already tell the response of many people watching this will be "zomg communism!" and "why do you hate those poor rich people?" It's like the god damn '50s all over again, only McCarthy has been reborn into the body of a cable show demagogue.
12-09-2010, 02:01 PM
DemolitionSquid
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
Never heard of this guy before. But something makes me like him right off the bat.
12-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Todie
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
cool to see such things being mentioned on the senate floor.. i would have loved to hear a response from someone.
12-09-2010, 03:26 PM
JackhammerIV
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
Two words to describe the whole situation he talks about: "free market". Everyone acting in their own selfish interests hoping for it to result in the best thing for everyone as a whole. And if there are people with no skills and doing the worst jobs then it's their own fault. Anything the US govt (specifically democrats) will try to do to help the poor and solve the situation that the senator describes will be branded socialism and against the american way. And truthfully the way that America has sold its own form of a free market makes that statement right. "Screw the rest. It's their own fault." is just the capitalist way. It's cruel, evil and overall morally wrong but it's just the reality of it sadly to say. And it won't change anytime soon.
12-09-2010, 03:39 PM
DemolitionSquid
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
I wish he had finished his speech with, "With no middle class, with only the poor and the rich, there will soon be no USA. Only a hundred thousand plots of land owned by corporations and CEO's, and 330 million trespassers."
12-09-2010, 06:22 PM
Todie
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
that would have been some senate epicness. and thats not a term to be used lightly.
12-09-2010, 09:07 PM
TheEconomist
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid
I wish he had finished his speech with, "With no middle class, with only the poor and the rich, there will soon be no USA. Only a hundred thousand plots of land owned by corporations and CEO's, and 330 million trespassers."
I'm sure he'd like to keep his credibility and not destroy all of his hard work with one simple line.
12-09-2010, 09:33 PM
DemolitionSquid
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
Ah, TF. It's sad how I don't even have to unblock your post to know you're probably rooting for the tax breaks.
12-10-2010, 03:12 PM
sandwich_bird
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
Quote:
Originally Posted by JackhammerIV
Two words to describe the whole situation he talks about: "free market". Everyone acting in their own selfish interests hoping for it to result in the best thing for everyone as a whole. And if there are people with no skills and doing the worst jobs then it's their own fault. Anything the US govt (specifically democrats) will try to do to help the poor and solve the situation that the senator describes will be branded socialism and against the american way. And truthfully the way that America has sold its own form of a free market makes that statement right. "Screw the rest. It's their own fault." is just the capitalist way. It's cruel, evil and overall morally wrong but it's just the reality of it sadly to say. And it won't change anytime soon.
Saying it's their own fault is not only morally wrong, it is also not thought out. Wanna know how Donald Trump got his millions? He had a father with millions... Give me a freaking million to make a startup and trust me, I'll be rich in a few years too. This is why this system is unfair. No one starts with the same amount of chance to become rich.
The worst is that Trump dare say that "he had the good genes" to become rich. This statement is so ridiculous on so many levels -.-
12-10-2010, 03:23 PM
DemolitionSquid
Re: Bernie Sanders tells it like it is...
SB hit the nail on the head. The kind of socialism I'm always advocating is merely that all children are given the same starting resources. Effort and talent should be rewarded, but its quite simply unethical that some start with everything given to them, and others start with nothing, through no fault of their own, but through parents who failed, likely through no fault of their own either. Its a sick, sick cycle. And it needs to end. Social policies like the universal health care we have here in Canada and most other counties are the first step to ensuring everyone is given the chance to succeed, and not merely make ends meet.