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Match 1 part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekn4fywc7SI
Match 1 part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWdJp6aUTY
Math2 part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ocSUkyxCM
Match2 part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dsrgRmKe_8
Can't believe no one posted that yet. Crazy match, crazy micro, crazy macro, crazy strats, Zerg is imba, terran is weak (jk jk jk). Korean starcraft is awesome.
All hail the Fruit.
Seriously, nobody plays Zerg like Fruit Dealer does, and if they did, we'd see all Zerg in the top 3. His drop micro is insane.
These videos are unwatchable. The fragmentation and frame lag along with the off sync audio only tops off the complete lack of entire sections due to Blizzard's shoddy overpriced stream.
For sure! I wish he was in the tournament honestly. I'm pretty sure he could beat loner easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by KDraconis
Indeed... I was trying to watch this live but I couldn't... Whenever there was a big battle, stream broke for me, pathetic...Quote:
Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid
Edit: Also, the games were just pure awesomeness!!! :) Too bad stream was THAT BAD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nxNT4C9ys8
Better video
I haven't seen much MM attacks at 7:30 anymore. Why?
Thanks for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TychusFindlay
Man they were some really fun to watch matches. Even though Boxer lost he played so well and he's showing great potential for SC2 so early on. Fruitdealer on the other hand, he is truly a master of Zerg and plays so unlike any other Zerg I've seen. He definitely deserved his GSL S1 title and no doubt one of the very best players in the world.
I'm looking forward to following both these players for the rest of GSL S2. :)
those were indeed some gg's
i think this is part of a clear turn in TvZ metagame; more banshees mixed in rather than pure ground, which is perhaps best met by sparse sporecrawler placment and hydras (not forgoing the ling roach foundation)
I think that just 1-2 vikings going overlord hunting throughout the game would have discouraged the baneling drops greatly in both games.
awesome!
And one thor in a dropship could have denied expos more effectively.
Amazing matches and very entertaining, great stuff.
I sat wondering that aswell, the only antiair Fruitdealer really had was Queens. Vikings just seemed like an ideal option.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordShotGun
Why Boxer tries to tech so much? Isn't better to go mass M&M&M against Zerg? Sure, Baneling drops destroy Marines, but Marauders can resist them much better. Anyways, Fruitdealer seems to always try to take 3 expansions ASAP, so more pressure early maybe would damage him enough to avoid such a heavy Baneling use.
Because only a loser would do MMM, it's pretty clear Mech still isn't *too* viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norfindel
Is it me or do siege tanks siege up too slowly? Man baneling drops are so OP, I started doing them in my games and they literally cannot stop them.
Boxor should've built a few vikings and just did overlord harass none stop since FD didn't really have any anti-air for the longest while instead of going banshees which is hugely gas costly.
Only a loser would go Infantry, but Mech isn't too viable? What're they supposed to do, according to you, mass Banshees and Vikings?
Boxor isn't a loser. And therefore he doesn't go infantry. According to me? I'm not Boxor. Maybe vikings could've helped I dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by TychusFindlay
Mech isn't viable but then again, neither was Nuke in SC1 and Boxor still pwned people with it. So what's your point?
I don't get how using effective counters is "been a loser".
It's not Norfindel. You use whatever is at your disposal to win. If you asked boxer why he didn't go MMM he'd have a legitimate answer for you, it wouldn't be "That strat is for losers."
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Originally Posted by Wankey
You didn't answer the question.
Its ok if you dont understand some ppl just have trouble with certain strats and instead of trying to improve against it they just say that those ppl are "losers". Losers tend to be the people who "lose" the game not the person who uses a good strat and "wins".
There are certain strats you can never use if you want to meet Wankey's high standards. For example, he hates players like me because I liked to use Void Rays in PvT. Also, people are apparently not allowed to build infantry as Terran, and who knows what other bizarre & otherworldly criteria he has. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by TychusFindlay
Maybe Wankey doesn't like any strats that beat him...
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammy
Enough of this whining about MMM. Just deal with it. I don't cry that I lose to other players and unit compositions.
All these threads around the forums about "make-your-own-patch-with-terran-nerf" start to piss me off completely and I'm about to rage out.
And Boxer did well, was voting for him. But FruitDealer is a freaking machine :S
I'm curious to hear what Wankey thinks about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gradius
He LIKED to use voidrays. Well I guess they're not so imba now are they.Quote:
Originally Posted by TychusFindlay
I haven't noticed how massed tier-1 pushes (the beta and week 1 stuff) become so underused atm. They are still very potent and could run over anyone teching or mass expanding like that.
Pretty sure zerg is imba!
Its just that its taken this long for someone to use them properly.
Can't wait for v1.1.3 :p
On a more serious note though, it does seem like SC2 has a number of 'game breakers' that when applied correctly can more than tip the balance. Certainly IMHO Nydus.
I still do that sometimes. They are incredibly powerful when timed right. But they do feel a bit cheap especially when you do all in tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by GnaReffotsirk
I had guessed that is how most players feel as well, in that all-ins seem cheap. But why stray away from it when it is the most powerful tactic one can pull off? I just am totally lost about this thing and the meta-game stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wankey