Giving the Obelisk Wormhole Transit

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

I am thoroughly convinced the only way to balance PC is to limit it to a certain number of Probes, limit how often it can be cast so it doesn't feel like busywork, and give it a viable downside (like affected Probes losing their shields for an extended period of time).

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Demo you are going to love this. I crunched the numbers and at Saturation point(24 workers/3 per rotation) we find that Proton Charge gives +8 minerals per trip time. In contrast one MULE provides +15 minerals per trip time. I havnt done zerg yet but Im guessing its less then both.


If anything you should be worrying about MULEs ;)

Why not use the same Nexus, thus limiting it's use to coherent levels, as to not be so an exponential mechanic? Just upgrade the Nexus to Twilight tech, and you've got some nice spells that can be casted inside any power field, including the macro mechanic. Even more: the Twilight Nexus could proyect a big power field around it, so as to give it an additional edge over the standard Nexus.

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

Demo you are going to love this. I crunched the numbers and at Saturation point(24 workers/3 per rotation) we find that Proton Charge gives +8 minerals per trip time. In contrast one MULE provides +15 minerals per trip time. I havnt done zerg yet but Im guessing its less then both.


If anything you should be worrying about MULEs ;)

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I AM worried about MULES. I have said MULTIPLE times it appears to currently be the more powerful mechanic because of the current numbers. But that CAN be fixed by adjusting numbers.

PC can not be fixed as long as it stays an exponential mechanic. It will always either be UP or OP.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

I AM worried about MULES. I have said MULTIPLE times it appears to currently be the more powerful mechanic because of the current numbers. But that CAN be fixed by adjusting numbers.

PC can not be fixed as long as it stays an exponential mechanic. It will always either be UP or OP.

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You have repeated that continiously yet People still fail to believe you. Maybe they fail Pattern recognition.

I actually HOPE PC on it´s own would be Underpowered. You should get the Obelisk for the OTHER abilities and PC would be a compensation if there wouldn´t be a opportunity to use it´s abilities.

Even you have to admit that both Queen and OC have abilities you might choose over the Macro ones - the Obelisk just needs that too.

It's true though, PC has potential of being UP/OP if it stays like it is right now. It's simply an APM sink, great for those who use it but damned for those who don't.

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Originally Posted by unentschieden

You have repeated that continiously yet People still fail to believe you. Maybe they fail Pattern recognition.

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I noticed this too. Very strange. Its almost like my extensive track record of calling Blizzards next move and coming up with ideas that Blizzard emulates in some way means nothing.

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Originally Posted by Norfindel

Why not use the same Nexus, thus limiting it's use to coherent levels, as to not be so an exponential mechanic? Just upgrade the Nexus to Twilight tech, and you've got some nice spells that can be casted inside any power field, including the macro mechanic. Even more: the Twilight Nexus could proyect a big power field around it, so as to give it an additional edge over the standard Nexus.

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Not a bad suggestion. Though I have to say that I really like the idea of teleporting a building around. It makes the recharge energy and shields abilities so much more effective.


Also Demo I love how now your saying the ability is potentially underpowered and potentially overpowered. Once again Id like to point out how pointless it is to try and figure out balance on a forum. You need the game.


What track record? Were you the one with the Thesis about race specific macro mechanics? Oh no wait that was some one else...

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

You need the game.

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No, I don't. Some things are obviously OP by their very nature.

Ex. Motherships original Blackhole.

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

What track record?

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Ive been here two years. In that time I've predicted many things, including the removal and implementation of many units, mechanics, and changes. Far too many to name.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

Ive been here two years. In that time I've predicted many things, including the removal and implementation of many units, mechanics, and changes. Far too many to name.

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LOL you always do that. Name 10 :)

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

LOL you always do that. Name 10 :)

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Things Removed
Soul Hunter
Cobra
Geyser Shutdown
Carrier Fighter Escorts
Scourge

Things Added
Marauder (based off my Epoch unit)
Creep Drop (based off ability on my Terralisk unit)
Less accessible Siege Tank (its more powerful but more expensive)
Banelings (more accurately, I predicted more/another Zerg suicide unit, and that Infested Terrans would be more accessible)
Roach (predicted a Zerg unit focused on regeneration)