It's Smung.191Quote:
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It's Smung.191Quote:
Originally Posted by evillesh
This looks awesome! I'm definitely up for this, even though I'm confident that I'm not as good as any of you guys:
PeRan.138
Hey,Quote:
Originally Posted by PeRan
Welcome and no worries, we have different level of players in our LFC. And playing against better opponent is a good practice.
Have you guys tested if TS3 also produces lags? Imo Skype is horrible for this kind of thing.
Indeed skype is terrible for this kind of thing and VERY un-community-like. It sucks that one can't go and come as he pleases in something that's community based. Skype... needing to invite each person to the discussion, all players needing to alt-tab to answer the call if something glitches, not being able to move people into seperate channels when they are the ones playing etc...
I still don't get what the problem with vent is.
Guess I can sign up for the fight club too :)
Welcome to the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeAdLiNe
Added all new people to the OP. Hope to see you online and on Sunday as well.
The thing with vent is that my mic was producing annoying buzzing sound in vent, while in skype it was ok, and several times we had this 5-10min delay on vent after and during the games, so it was a little bit annoying, since the only way to get rid of that was to relog in vent. So pros and cons are everywhere.
Hey im matt not a great player but i look forward to playing with you all
Phosphoric.837
Hello Lesh, I was one of the guys who were playing the campaign on the first few weeks, so I didn't participiate although you invited me. :p
I've started playing seriously (and trying to improve) just a few weeks ago - so I'll be happy to join the group. :)
I'm Silex.165
To everyone at LFC, remember you can PM me if you're interested in being listed in the SC:Legacy SC2Ranks division.
It doesn't change anything you're doing, but if you want to see how you rank compared to the other players on the boards that's a pretty good tool (and it shows all servers).
hey there...i played once but missed the last few sessions...can one of you guys put me on your "ladder" ?!
thx
greetz
it's not a ladder.
*Ah, you were talking about the sclegacy rankings. You can pm hammy about that, be sure to pm your account name and character code.
How about trying out Mumble?
As an avid ventrilo user for 6+ years, I find it way better than Ventrilo, and any other method of VoIP.
One of the best features is the overlay, that shows who is talking while in-game, which is great when talking to people you don't know the voice of =)
Position and looks can be customized, but this is basically how it looks initially: (top right)
Hidden Content:
Hm, guess we might try it out next Sunday. But as far as I remember I had some unresolved problems with mumble during the raids in WoW, so would appreciate if we could try it out. And what about hosting/server?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dauntless
I recently aquired an EU account. So now I can play with people in my time zone. (gmt+2) Do you still meet up at 8-9pm on sundays?
My account is Sazun.284 on both na and eu
There are a lot of free mumble servers afaik, but a friend of mine might be able to set something up for us. I'll edit this post when I know..
Edit:
We're free to use this server:
Address: griznah.net
port: 64738
(You can also use it whenever you want, don't have to ask me or anyone else for permission=)
aight...done! thxQuote:
Originally Posted by Twilice
Hey guys, fight club still going strong? :)
Wont be able to have fun with sc2 untill next year :(
Hey there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alterran
yup, each Sunday, as always. Haven't heard from you awhile. Looking forward to see you back in our gaming community! Busy with work/studies?
poker :pQuote:
Originally Posted by evillesh
Made 12k usd since i last played with u guys, took so much of this year away from poker so have to pick up my slack from playing too much mmo/sc2 :)
Got plans to backpack some next year so had to uninstall every game to make some money :p
LOL why does this not surprise me? :) good for you.
Hmm, the free server does justifies its name:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dauntless
"Invalid server password."
Yeah I've never used Mumble but when I try to log on to the server it tells me my password isn't correct.
let's do something this evening
Hm, I guess I'm going to host a small Bo1 each Sunday at some point when there are more or less 8+ people are online.
We had a pretty fun tourney tonight, and Twilice is the first LFC champ. So more motivation so attend LFC :)
Yay, maybe I am good enough to be in the showmatch between NA :P
How did that work? Did you make brackets and stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by evillesh
Ok, added some stuff to the OP about Bo1 tourney and champs, and also added Hide option for memberlist and champ list. Should look cool now.
@ Hammy
Yah, I did. It was pretty fun though. Those who got knocked out, they went to obs the other games, so it's like two rabbits with one shot :)
Yeah, it was fun and it's a good way to make sure everyone gets to play atleast once!
On a side note; sorry for raging last night.. Deadline ticked me off but there was no need for name calling and I already apologized to him, but I figured I'd apologize to the rest of you attending as well!
Quote:
Originally Posted by soup
good boy^^
i got cannon rushed last night and i think, a little rage is ok :)
Haha, I saw.. I didn't rage about the game tho. I just wanna make that clear :)Quote:
Originally Posted by l0cke3000
Also, it's okay to discuss games from LFC here right? If not please ignore this post.
I just watched this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPR1Iw-93Gk&feature=sub
And in a way it reminded me of my game vs Xorp yesterday (only obviously at a very much lower level of play)..
Here's my question to you guys tho.. How would you deal with it?
Don't mind the useless youtube comments as they dont have a clue what they're talking about..
Sure, banelings are a good counter to marines, but go thors and you get rolled over by the banelings (yes, this even happened yesterday in my game vs Xorp :P) and not to mention thors are immobile so it gets increasingly hard to defend as the game goes on.
Go siege tanks and yuo get the same problem as with thors as siege tanks have to be in position and how easy it is for zerg do to run by's all over the map..
Husky tries to suggest teching up to BC or something aunno.. I watched it at school and might have missunderstood him since i was only listening with half an ear during class :) but either way, BC is yet another horrible counter as they are literally the slowest unit in the game and then you will be WAY more open to run by's + the zerg has a spire up and can easily get corruptors.
Marauders are pretty good but you need to balance it out to deal with the mutas as well efficiently, and plus a decent baneling army rolls through anything really..
Helions are good, but not really a baneling counter, imho.
Here's my problem tho; Zerg is off 2 base.. Terran was off 4 (i believe..?).. Terran had excellent macro and literally contained and outplayed the zerg quite efficiently even tho reading the youtube comments might make you think otherwise.. (also interesting opening by the terran player, and a good answer by madfrog, but lets stay on track)
So, what are your thoughts? How would a terran deal with this?
To compare it:
Yesterday I had a game vs Xorp where I helion dropped him and got 15 drone kills (thus being ahead in income after that) I prepared for mutas and he had 13 mutas (1300 gas) which literally did not do one thing as i had thors and turrets up.. We then macroed up, me being far ahead in income (over 1000 minerals and 200 gas ahead) as i was on 3 bases with 1 gold and more workers and he was off 3 base no gold, less workers and only using 5/6 gas.
I tried to transition into marine thor and saw banelings (about 40 of them <.<) and i added siege tanks to counter it. Problem is in any head on fight I would probably annihilate his army, but if he just runs outside the siege range (xel'naga and he could do run by's outside my siege range in the middle..ish of the map) i gotta unsiege to stop him and then he can just 1a and kill everything which is pretty much exactly what happened.
I'm not saying I played perfect at all, but having a macro game where you're way ahead in income should generally be a good thing? Plus, he was off 5 gas and i was off 6 and I kept my resources <500 most of the game he was up to over 2k minerals by the time he had mutas out (meaning he didnt spend his resources well at all)..
This is in no way an attack on Xorp's play, do not get me wrong, but rather me asking how I could deal with it when it (TO ME) looked like i was pretty much ahead most of the game.
I realise I could probably have done more drops, more harass and sniped his 3rd sooner etc. but I can only do so much with my APM :)
Thanks if you read through it all! Appreciate any help :)
pull your forces leaving a thor to tank the damage
sounds like i missed out on some good action!
if youre really ahead macrowise, i dont get why you want to get mobile and take risks.. find other ways to keep ahead instead ad go for a composition that makes you feel actually safe in moving out.
Thor/marine/Tank is a solid core, but if Banelings are whats really threatening you, air support makes sense, as does marauuders to help cover the marines from bane-hits..
if you are actually ahead by enough, you can get BC's without needing to fear counter-action, as youll be able to support BC's handily... same goes for mixing marine /marauder with thor ; with too small econ or weak macro, you might get overwhelmed by ling/muta (if you cut back on marines for marauders), but with just a big enough advantage, you can still feel sorta safe thats not gonna happen - and do this to stay safer vs banelings.
... if you worry about run-byes, take precautions; PF beyond first expo and bunkers in key locations just makes sense.
thats how it seems from my perspective, though thats alot to think about in practise, and i'd need alot of practise in TvZ to be able to say that i practise what i preach. but when i lose hopelessly ZvT, i get frustrated about how easy i seems it is, in theory, to play safe with terran, (from an already established advantage like OK harassment, early-expanding and/or denying my 3rd)
Spychi: I had 6-7 thors and i think I already commented on it
Todie: Indeed, we all feel that way and I'm not trying to say there aren't things i could have done better either.. I did have a PF at the gold, tons of turrets, siege in the middle of the map trying to protect my gold expo and run by's but he could pass by on the outside of the watch tower without my siege reaching him.. Maybe I could have had some siege on the cliff over the watch tower etc. but then risk the mutas sniping them etc. etc.. I hear what you say tho.. Just seemed like an odd match overall as I felt quite far ahead and it wasnt due to some failed early game giving him an economy advantage and losing to a bigger army.. Actually he had a lot of roach as well at one point now that I think about it.. but thors and siege tanks do pretty good against roaches so myeah.. If it was an even match I could see how it would be close, but because of the lead i was expecting it to be way more one sided..
edit: nm, i rewatched the replay properly when i got back from school and i got caught out of position and lost my entire army to a 1a mass zerg ball.. (literally 1a.. 104 mutas, zerglings, banelings and roaches)..
the cannon rush was for the lulz, I've never done it before and I don't think I will use it again
I loved the comments after the game though... that I killed litterly Locke with that rush
@ Soup i know, avoiding fight is unfair to the guy who owns a bigger army by value and by power
he pulled you out, your guard was down, he used that against you, it's annoying yes but that's not a reason to hate the motherfucker (Dave Chappelle lol)
I wouldn't call that a cannon rush since he had marines before you put the pylon down afaik. But it was lulz.
Yay i registered my first play for the LFC.There was even dramah :) but everything got handled.I think i should try that cheese too spychi ,that should teach terrans for having those marauders :) About the tvz game i agree with Todie ,this applies to pvz as well ,good scouting and if the zerg is going too ground heavy (meaning banes and roaches with no hydras for AA support) you should definitely have to build banshees or BCs.And since you have marines and thors which are good AA support your only problem would be hydras ,but then again there wont be that much banelings if he has hydras.And some marauders really would've worked fine.
Don't take this the wrong way Deadline.. I am not in any way trying to start a war again, but banshees when he has 13 mutas out? and BCs when he can so easily get corruptors + they're so slow that it would be impossible for me to stop him before my entire base was gone :P I was having problems with a run by, BCs wont help with that I'm afraid.. I realize you didnt mention any mutas in your post, but that doesnt change the fact that he did have mutas out and i take it your post was directed to me when you say "you" seeing as how im the only terran who's been posting about a TvZ game now.. and in the late game my entire army was pure marauder marine with some tanks..
@Spychi: what was your post about? I have no idea where you got that from.. I don't think I ever mentioned anything about it being unfair not to run into siege tanks.. I just asked how people would deal with a situation like that :)
And again, I was never mad at Xorp. I was mad at deadline when he was making stuff up.. BUT i dont wanna start any more wars and i already posted what happened so unless someone has something really ground breaking (that would fit into the situation! i.e saying if he doesnt have "xxx" do this when he has "xxx".. It sorta ruins the point) I suggest we move on and try and find something else to amuse us..
edit: note to self: gotta learn to pick my battles <.<
dont let us stop u2 love birds, im amused :)