Dr. Hanson commentary

Well after discovering the good doctor can leave -really- early (found that out the hard way first play through) I decided to keep her around until the very end to see all that she says.

However, I forgot about my Zeratul missions right before Char and sent her home to Haven and saved afterwards. I don't have any previous saves and I'm not about to start a new campaign...again.

Anybody have any transcripts/vague recollections/videos of her conversations after you do the zeratul missions? Does she even -have- commentary? I know Tosh does.

Anyway, any help with this would be most appreciated.

Learn to save more often Xyvik!

Sorry, I happened to say goodbye to her early on as well (many of us did, I think because we thought we would need to act good) but I was playing on a friend's computer and now that I'm back home, the saves are still on his.

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Anybody have any transcripts/vague recollections/videos of her conversations after you do the zeratul missions? Does she even -have- commentary?

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I don't recall anything. I think after the first one, she mentions that you've been standing there for some time. But that's about it.

Tosh only has commentary because he's telepathic.

I remember her expressing worry and doubt about Raynor's hours gazing into the crystal. Beyond that, I don't remember her comments.

She says stuff... but shes a rather flat character.

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Originally Posted by BusinessMonkey

Learn to save more often Xyvik!

Sorry, I happened to say goodbye to her early on as well (many of us did, I think because we thought we would need to act good) but I was playing on a friend's computer and now that I'm back home, the saves are still on his.

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Meh I had her get infested the second I had the choice... I love zombie maps, and I wanted Raynor to get along with the Protoss haha.

Well that makes me feel better then. If her commentary isn't memorable then I won't waste time starting a new campaign just for that lol.

Thanks guys

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Originally Posted by Xyvik

Well that makes me feel better then. If her commentary isn't memorable then I won't waste time starting a new campaign just for that lol.

Thanks guys

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Yeah. She tells you stuff about the artifacts, and will let you know that Nova lies... but there's nothing really important that comes out of her trap.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

Yeah. She tells you stuff about the artifacts, and will let you know that Nova lies... but there's nothing really important that comes out of her trap.

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When I heard someone say that on these forums, I was like "Damn, can't believe I fell for Nova's trap!"

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Originally Posted by Alex06

When I heard someone say that on these forums, I was like "Damn, can't believe I fell for Nova's trap!"

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I think her ghost suit is to tight to hide a trap like that.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

I think her ghost suit is to tight to hide a trap like that.

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But not too tight to hide the amount of hate she has for Tosh. Checking up on the wikia, I found out that Tosh and Nova had a little something going on, but dating within the ghost program was forbidden so he ended it. My guess is she never got over it... well, maybe, after she got her point across. ;)


As for Dr. Hanson, isn't it safe to say that regardless of the pathing that Blizzard chooses to be the canon storyline, that Hanson is to be considered dead? If Raynor chose to save the infected colonists from the Protoss, was she already infested when she left to join the other colonists?

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

She says stuff... but shes a rather flat character.

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flat is too much, she is like the Kachinsky tech man or even worst

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

I think her ghost suit is to tight to hide a trap like that.

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oh..."that" trap

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Originally Posted by Zero

But not too tight to hide the amount of hate she has for Tosh. Checking up on the wikia, I found out that Tosh and Nova had a little something going on, but dating within the ghost program was forbidden so he ended it. My guess is she never got over it... well, maybe, after she got her point across. ;)

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Heh. Actually she probably forgot him along with everything else with the mindwipe. Tragic.

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This.

Considering all ghost get 'brain-panned' on completion of the program, it's unlikely Nova would remember any important details pertaining to her past, anything between her and Tosh, or the truth concerning project 'Shadow Blade' and the Specters, other than whatever official Dominion propaganda is fed to her.

She was mind-wiped before she learned about Shadow Blade.

Although I suppose the Dominion might have mind wiped her again.

Yeah, that's a big oops on my part. I brain-farted, thinking that the events of Ghost Academy were after her basic ghost training.

So she probably has no memory of any past relationship with Tosh, but I'll wager a guess that her mind-wipe after her graduation was the only one she's gotten. We'll find out for certain when the Spectres book is out, but I'm sure whatever happens, will explain her strong desire to destroy the spectre program. And if Blizzard chooses, Tosh and the spectres may not play a part in HotS or LotV. In my opinion, I'm sure Blizzard will have Raynor choose Tosh's side. Other than being creepy/spooky, Tosh still has more credibility than some random ghost. Plus, based on Dr. Hanson's research, there's nothing wrong with spectres, and she doesn't trust Nova.

But we probably need to push this conversation back to the Doc. Anyone have any other thoughts on her?

There's definitely more to her than she's letting on.

If you already have Tosh on board and talk to him after you complete the 'zombie apocalypse' mission, Raynor will ask him what he thinks of Dr. Hanson.
He insinuates (rather unsettlingly) that she's hiding something; likely pertaining to the REAL reason the Zerg invaded the colony so quickly.


Heh...buzzin little bees....

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Originally Posted by phazonjunkie

There's definitely more to her than she's letting on.

If you already have Tosh on board and talk to him after you complete the 'zombie apocalypse' mission, Raynor will ask him what he thinks of Dr. Hanson.
He insinuates (rather unsettlingly) that she's hiding something; likely pertaining to the REAL reason the Zerg invaded the colony so quickly.


Heh...buzzin little bees....

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Yeah, what does he mean by "buzzin' little bees"? Why would the Zerg attack the doctor's colony? Does she already have a cure for the virus? Or... I really can't seem to place her anywhere in a spectrum from good to evil, based on what Tosh says in that line.

so this get me to a question that probably someone already asked:

¿any clue of what chooses are going to be canon?

according to wiki in the bonus DVD (Collector edition), tosh and dr.hanson are the right choice (canonical), fit well with the morality of jim

So Raynor really did beat back the Fleet of the Executor which included Carriers and a purifier with his single Battlecruiser. That's pretty lame/unrealistic. =/

Maybe both sides pulled their punches during the battle. I mean, I sure would hope that my commander would be a lot more appreciative and retributional for my sacrifices, even against an old buddy, especially if I died fighting him/them. Or in other words, if I lost five brothers and twenty best buds to some other group of people, I sure hope my commander doesn't expect me to happily and instantly team up with them down the road because all that killing tends to leave a little dislike for them.

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Originally Posted by BusinessMonkey

Yeah, what does he mean by "buzzin' little bees"? Why would the Zerg attack the doctor's colony? Does she already have a cure for the virus? Or... I really can't seem to place her anywhere in a spectrum from good to evil, based on what Tosh says in that line.

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And that's why I found it so unsettling; too much uncertainty.

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So Raynor really did beat back the Fleet of the Executor which included Carriers and a purifier with his single Battlecruiser. That's pretty lame/unrealistic. =/

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I got the impression that Selendis was merely 'testing' Raynor to see just how serious he was/how far he was willing to go to protect the colonists.

But then, continuing to waste more Protoss lives in a pointless battle with a former ally, especially when their entire race has their own problems to deal with, would've been counterproductive to say the least.

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Originally Posted by phazonjunkie

I got the impression that Selendis was merely 'testing' Raynor to see just how serious he was/how far he was willing to go to protect the colonists.

But then, continuing to waste more Protoss lives in a pointless battle with a former ally, especially when their entire race has their own problems to deal with, would've been counterproductive to say the least.

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Sounds reasonable to me. I'd believe that.

I severely hope you're wrong, Phazon. Otherwise the Protoss would have been losing a Purifier simply to test a human's morals.

I think it may have been a matter of lack of planning or foresight on the Protoss' part. I don't remember any of their bases being extensive, with most of their forces stemming from the Purifier's warp recalls.

Maybe Raynor only saves some of the colonists.

As if the Protoss purge the planet no matter what, but Raynor only goes to one little cluster of colonies where his only Battlecruiser can do any good.
And that Selendis lets him do it and only the Protoss randomly assigned to that place will try to stall him.
This would also make purifiers not be Motherships, but only big flying guns so we could expect hundreds of them sent to purify the planet at the same time.

I know it doesn't make sense from a Protoss standpoint due to their way of dealing in absolutes, but out of the respect for Raynor, they let him get away with the little he CAN get away with using only one ship.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

She says stuff... but shes a rather flat character.

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Ironically enough, she has more character once she's infested...unless that was Kerrigan channeling herself through her, which would explain a great deal.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

I think her ghost suit is to tight to hide a trap like that.

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Nice...

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Originally Posted by drakolobo

according to wiki in the bonus DVD (Collector edition), tosh and dr.hanson are the right choice (canonical), fit well with the morality of jim

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This makes me extremely happy.

I adored Tosh, and I hope Hanson makes another appearence...in...her...other...form.

*Spoiler*

Hmm...

I had completely forgotten about what Tosh said in regards to her, and when you factor in how intelligent she was after the infestation process brought her mutations on...this lead me to a very interesting theory. What if Kerrigan was possessing her the entire time, and that the one speaking to Jim about killing her children was really Kerrigan all along? Then, when he shot her, the hold Kerrigan had fell and that was the real Hanson asking Jim to kill her...

We know that she can do this, easily seeing as how she mentally dominated Raszagal. We also know that she can see through the eyes of any individual amongst the Swarm. Perhaps that entire colony was simply an experiment in furthering her goals towards the perfection of Terran DNA within the Swarm...hence the Abberation.

I always felt that the scene where she kisses Jim and tries to lure him into staying was a little devious...like a cat playing with a mouse. What if that was, once again, Kerrigan... It would mean that she was with them when they were seeking out the artifacts, and possibly how she was locating them in the first place.

Even more amusing...she would have had access to them to study...while everyone thought she was no more than Dr. Hanson.

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae

I always felt that the scene where she kisses Jim and tries to lure him into staying was a little devious...like a cat playing with a mouse. What if that was, once again, Kerrigan... It would mean that she was with them when they were seeking out the artifacts, and possibly how she was locating them in the first place.

Even more amusing...she would have had access to them to study...while everyone thought she was no more than Dr. Hanson.

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If the example of Starry Lace is any indication, you may very well be on to something here.....:D

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Originally Posted by phazonjunkie

If the example of Starry Lace is any indication, you may very well be on to something here.....:D

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Interesting, thank you...

I'm currently working on a huge wall o text based around my personal theories, the Queen of Blades, the artifact, the temples, etc...all focused around it being her plan all along.

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

I remember her expressing worry and doubt about Raynor's hours gazing into the crystal. Beyond that, I don't remember her comments.

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Hmm... really? I thought it was Tosh expressed worry and doubt... Perhaps Ariel did it too, couldn't really remember though. Anyways, sure Tosh was telepathing and knew what's in Jimmy's mind while Ariel was indeed concerned about Jimmy because we all knew that she's carrying a torch for him... :D

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Originally Posted by Gradius

So Raynor really did beat back the Fleet of the Executor which included Carriers and a purifier with his single Battlecruiser. That's pretty lame/unrealistic. =/

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Wasn't the whole campaign like that? :(
Well, not the whole, maybe something like 40%, but that's too much. Where's the Blizzard quality??
I only seen Blizzard quality in the cinematics, and the engine, and obviously the multiplayer, but the campaign dissapointed me quite a lot.
Hell, i maybe play SC1 campaign again. That was the good stuff. Much better dialogue during the missions and briefing, and the missions weren't so much scripted, so you had more choice on what to do and when, instead of playing "follow the carrot" with Blizzard's triggers.

SC I probably had the better storyline, but I disagree that the mission mechanics were preferable.

Usually you had the freedom to turtle until you had 200 supply, then attack a massive enemy base(s), chipping away at it. Repeat. The hardest part of the missions were the beginning, when you had to survive attacks with limited firepower (hence the turtling).

Most StarCraft II base-building missions gave you reasons to leave your base beyond the usual search-and-destroy.

Maybe I'm bringing a near-dead topic back to life, but hey:D

I always felt the ''good ending'' turned out a bit inconclusive - did Hanson find the cure or not before she said goodbye and left Hyperion to meet up with her folk? I mean, the infestation during Safe Haven seems to be a lot less severe than Haven's fall, there's some infested terrans being locked up and guarded by colonist marines, but that's about it.

Was Hanson successfull or not? If so, then she'd be able to contain the virus and her people would live happily on Haven, if not, then things would probably go bad again and another protoss intervention would be needed after Raynor left the area...

Just felt a bit weird that Hanson gives no update on her research progress whatsoever during the entire damn mission, even when you succesfully chase off the protoss, you're left wondering if Hanson and her people would be OK or you're just delaying the inevitable. Perhaps Blizz did it intentionally to leave us wondering and the scene with Ariel urging Jim to stay really is as ominous as some folks suggested...

Now when kerrigan is "human", what if Ariel becomes the heart of the swarm!

MINDBLOWN!

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Ironically enough, she has more character once she's infested...unless that was Kerrigan channeling herself through her, which would explain a great deal.

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That's the theory I'm operating under. Either Hanson was blind to the fact that some of her precious colonists might be carrying a nasty flu that'll get them all glassed, or her choice of the planet was a deliberate attempt by Kerrigan to drive a wedge between Raynor and the Protoss.

Look at it this way: Either Raynor sides with Hanson, screwing the Protoss, or he sides with the Protoss and has to burn yet another person he was getting close to.

If Kerrigan enjoys screwing with people HALF as much as Brood War depicted her doing, that's exactly what she would do.

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Originally Posted by StricMatic

Maybe I'm bringing a near-dead topic back to life, but hey:D

I always felt the ''good ending'' turned out a bit inconclusive - did Hanson find the cure or not before she said goodbye and left Hyperion to meet up with her folk? I mean, the infestation during Safe Haven seems to be a lot less severe than Haven's fall, there's some infested terrans being locked up and guarded by colonist marines, but that's about it.

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Your choice in this mission branch alters reality. If you choose to work with Hanson, the infestation is magically weakened. If you choose Selendis, the infestation is magically worsened.

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Was Hanson successfull or not? If so, then she'd be able to contain the virus and her people would live happily on Haven, if not, then things would probably go bad again and another protoss intervention would be needed after Raynor left the area...

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She was reasonably successful. At worst, she had to torch all those infested colonists without protoss help. I mean, she does have marines at her beck and call.

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Just felt a bit weird that Hanson gives no update on her research progress whatsoever during the entire damn mission, even when you succesfully chase off the protoss, you're left wondering if Hanson and her people would be OK or you're just delaying the inevitable. Perhaps Blizz did it intentionally to leave us wondering and the scene with Ariel urging Jim to stay really is as ominous as some folks suggested...

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Well, she won't be mentioned again anyway, and the campaign took place over a few weeks in game time, that's all. There's probably little point of her calling Raynor, except to send him sexy pictures of herself :)

You can find most of that sort of stuff on the Starcraft wikia page.

She has some rather interesting things to say about Spectres and Nova respectively. Otherwise she doesn't really add much to the mix. None of them do really.