Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
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Originally Posted by
Gradius
Your point? How hard is it to understand that Blizzard reps were ordered to not discuss the beta release date at this time? I'm sorry that you have unrealistic expectations for these events, yet feel obligated to follow them and complain afterwards anyway. Perhaps you should snap back to reality and realize that Blizzard doesn't announce things that they aren't ready to be released.
If thats true, why did they already announce an end of 09 release? Why did they announce beta coming this summer? Why do all games and films announce deadlines in advance? Because they want to create hype but also let their fans know when they can expect to enjoy the product so they don't just sit around twiddling their thumbs, its just common decency.
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Mercatosis
My moral high horse? Surely you don't mean the fact that I'm being sound and reasonable about the information presented to us by SC:L. I'm not the one that "demanded" information regarding the beta (as I've been playing blizzard games long enough to expect a date). Also, do you think that you've been waiting for the beta longer than myself, becoming a much more deserved recipient of news such as the start of the beta? Seems pretty fucking stupid to me sir. I've been waiting for the beta since the announcement, and knew that it would take a long time. I just don't get angry when I don't get what I want.
Do you honestly think that all these news outlets went to blizzard not thinking about the beta? Do you think they didn't ask? If you think that's how it is, then you're an idiot. They probably didn't report on the issues as there was nothing to report on.
I think having your own opinion is reasonable but to lecture me on why I should have the same opinion as you and what I do and do not deserve and what I should and should not want is beyond pompous and self-righteous on your part. And yes some of us ARE more dedicated to following this project, I was at Blizzcon almost strictly for starcraft 2 and to play it and get a beta key. And yes I've been following every news site I can including this one. and YES I know these sites went to Blizzard HQ thinking and asking about beta which is EXACTLY WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED IT IN THEIR ARTICLES instead of pretending like it doesn't exist.
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Aldrius
Dude, I think you misunderstand.
They actually want to be invited back. The only way they'd get information out of those people... MAYBE... is if they harassed them. In which case, guess what?
They wouldn't get invited back. And they would get no information anyway.
I figured sites reporting on starcraft "news" actually did so. That requires being a little investigative on their part, I'm not saying sneak around and report on shit illegally but press these people for information like any good reporter of news. Not slobber over their dicks like fan boys just so they can get a second treat.
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Nicol Bolas
Wait, don't those "fans who've waited for 2 years" realize that "when it's ready" is pretty much the de-facto standard that Blizzard holds to? So if those "fans who've waited for 2 years" were actually paying attention during that time, they wouldn't expect a beta date.
Me and others have done alot of research not only on this project but all of Blizzards previous titles and if you had any ounce of knowledge about it, you'd realize the beta should be here and if not, there should be some sort of explanation as to why. I'm not going to list the facts but you can use google/wiki yourself to simply find out beta timeframes.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
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Originally Posted by
Nicol Bolas
3: The Phoenixes old Overload (which has no shutdown, and probably does much more damage).
The overload you're referring to is its regular attack, which apparently can hit both air and ground.
The article mentions is has planet cracker back now, so that would give it PC, Vortex, Building Warp (name?), and innate cloaking like the Arbiter.
Vortex, for all intents and purposes, is Stasis Field only with a different and much more obnoxious animation. The units within its effect disappear and in its place is a ridiculously distracting animation.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
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If thats true, why did they already announce an end of 09 release? Why did they announce beta coming this summer? Why do all games and films announce deadlines in advance? Because they want to create hype but also let their fans know when they can expect to enjoy the product so they don't just sit around twiddling their thumbs, its just common decency.
Because they rarely meet their target dates.
So giving them is pointless, and is more indecent than giving dates they know they probably won't meet.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
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Originally Posted by
Blazur
Vortex, for all intents and purposes, is Stasis Field only with a different and much more obnoxious animation. The units within its effect disappear and in its place is a ridiculously distracting animation.
There is a major difference in that it continues to cause stasis to all those who enter the field throughout its duration. Moreover, those caught in it get repositioned at the Vortex's center. As you can imagine, this has various strategic applications when combined with Colossi and Psionic Storm. In addition, it might be able to move units up and down a cliff, though this would be somewhat more situational.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
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Originally Posted by
Blazur
Vortex, for all intents and purposes, is Stasis Field only with a different and much more obnoxious animation. The units within its effect disappear and in its place is a ridiculously distracting animation.
I think there's a reason for having such an eye-catching animation. It's like stasis, except it will also disable units that go into it even AFTER the ability is activated. This is a really big deal that can immensely change the course of battle.
The reason they made the animation so distracting is so that when it's there, both players KNOW it's there the entire time and don't miss it by accident.
Could you imagine getting a huge army, you switch screens really quickly, don't notice the vortex, and accidentally 1a2a3a all your units into it. (Though I would laugh hard if I saw this happen in a pro match) Plus, I personally think it looks pretty =D
I just thought of some nice strategy for it too. It looks like units come out pretty clumped together once Vortex wears off. Tag some HT's with the MS, Vortex an area, and then when it's about to wear off, Psi Storm the area so all the enemies get hit by it as they come out.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
I'm probably one of the few that thinks Vortex looks pretty cool. I like it.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
So - I'm reading this right? - You don't get bunkers until you've upgraded to an Orbital CC?
EDIT: Nevermind - I see both are avl after Barracks.
Man, Zerg look un-bee-lieveable...! - I take back everything I've ever said.... :)
However, the Spine Crawler attack is a little silly - It kind of reminded me of the "tongue' attack in the new transformer movie...
BTW - thanks ChaosSmurf, for a great review - thanks for getting to so many of my questions. :)
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Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
Yeah, I don't find the tech tree display to be very intuitive.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
I'm a little upset that they haven't changed the renders of some units/buildings over this period of time, but there's still plenty of time for it.
Such a shame there isn't any news about beta.
Re: June 22, 2009 Press Event
Good to hear that Rob is returning for Raynor. See, they care. :)
I also looked at the other reports and liked some things I saw.
Apparently theres gonna be some kind of 'Challenges' mode. I know the hardcore folk wont really care about this, but I find it interesting.
TL also gave a really good report, and even have an 'idea' on when the beta starts.
And the gold fish has a name, HERBIE. :D
