Why I hate TheLittleOne! ZvT video of him inside!

AAAAAARGH!

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHQJbUYebiI

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi9xJRmv2ms

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb36Qbo_taI

What. The. Fudge!

I was just happily watching this game, when at the 9-minute mark, Husky gives us a shot of TLO's main and there's a frickin' HIVE already.

Ok, so TLO getting to Hive may not be too impressive a feat. He forgo'ed Metabolic Boost early on as well as Overlord Speed. However, I saw the Hydras and Roaches, and thought that his gas would have been too locked up to get to Hive so quickly, but I'm just amazed that he could afford a respectable number of Roaches and Hydra and STILL get to Hive so frickin' fast!

Ok, but getting to Hive is one thing. Usually, if I try teching to Hive at the speed which TLO did, I'd be like: "ok great, I'm at Hive now, I've built an Ultralisk Cavern, and now I have enough gas leftover for THREE Ultralisks. Woo hoo."

But TLO, when he reaches Hive, he can somehow build a bunch of Ultras and still have enough resources to research frickin EVERYTHING. He grabs like every single upgrade in the game! Chitinous Plating, Melee attack, Carapace, Adrenal Glands, Burrow, Overlord Speed, Overlord Drop...

And at that point in the game, he's only on TWO bases!

And this is why I hate TheLittleOne! Because it's games like this which make me go: "WOWOWOOW! Ultralisks are soooooo cool! I'm gonna do this strategy next time I play!" And then I get to Hive and have no resources, no army, and then I get rofflestomped. T_T

But seriously - truly inspiring and Zergy play! I've loved Ultralisks since the dawn of the beta, even though I never felt that they were good units until now. I still hope that they don't really catch on, because I want to be special! ^____^ Seeing Ultralisks with Frenzy in this game made me quite happy, but I still think Frenzy is kind of a lousy spell just because it's more or less made only for Ultralisks :p.

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All the replay threads make it seem like beta has been up all along and I'm just missing it^^

TLO does some impressive stuff with T3 indeed. I like his fast builds. However, he must have been saving up a lot if he was only on two bases... The games I saw where he does this sort of build, he usually takes his third when his hive starts upgrading.
Also, he seems to revolve a lot around infestors for their defensive capabilities, which is awesome!

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Originally Posted by Hammy

All the replay threads make it seem like beta has been up all along and I'm just missing it^^

TLO does some impressive stuff with T3 indeed. I like his fast builds. However, he must have been saving up a lot if he was only on two bases... The games I saw where he does this sort of build, he usually takes his third when his hive starts upgrading.
Also, he seems to revolve a lot around infestors for their defensive capabilities, which is awesome!

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BUt hoooooooooow? :(

I mean seriously, even on three bases, I find that getting Ultras still feels very extravagant. TLO just affords them AND Infestors like they were nothing! T_T

In this particular game, I don't think he got Infestors until after he got his Hive, though. I suppose it was because he only had a small area to defend from Hellions, and he could handle that with Roaches.

The Infestors this game felt like they took a back seat to: "I'm going to produce 200/200 supply worth of Ultralisks because I somehow have infinite economy off just 2-3 bases. DURRRRR!"

Here's another sweet game by TLO vs Stelok

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/user/HDstarcr.../1/ge_8e39_nUc

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/user/HDstarcr.../0/EeKsycvuX48

The whole best-of-3 series is there by this game was very impressive Zerg by TLO.

Man that game was awesome, I specially liked how he covered the entire map in creep tumors :D however gotta quote this comment form the youtube videos:

"To make the current Ultralisk work, it only took one of the best SC2 players controlling 6-7 bases. There's hope for the rest of us. :)"

However I agree with Husky in that Ultras are commonly used ineffectively because they are sent straight into the enemy army instead of looking for flanking.

Awesome game

You can easily support getting ultras on 2 bases, I have done it a few times on the Build order tester. And I was able to get infestors before the ultras as well while this time TLO just got a few hydra (8 or so) a few roaches (also 8 or so) and just spent all that gas from not getting infestors and put them into upgrades. Also note that as soon as he built the first ultras he had started his 3rd base and was going for his gold as well. You can build ultras with 2 bases, but you can not build alot of them (maybe 3 each cycle or so). TLO himself has said that everytime he expands he expands for gas. So at first the extra bases he added were mining maybe a few minerals but were mostly mining gas. If you will notice it was not until he had the 4-5 bases did ultras become the dominant force they were, until then he was mixing in zerglings and hydras a little bit. Until the Ultras popped out he really did not have a lot of units at all. So feasibly even he could have lost if the terran had pushed with a good army at that time.

As far as the upgrades he got all at once, it would just be as much gas as getting two infestors...just 2. 300 gas to get the upgrades he started to get when he threw down the ultralisk cavern which is just 200 gas. So 500 gas for all those things, not all that much really. And just because he was getting them all at once, does not mean he STARTED them all at once. The obs view just shows what the person is getting, not when they started getting it. If you watch the production tab(when it shows) you see him getting zergling speed and hive before he starts getting the other upgrades, and during this time he is making drones, starting his 3rd, and thats about it. But TLO has practiced this build hundreds of times I would wager, so that means you have to as well if you want to do it too.

A great zerg player. I love watching his games. When he is interviewed he is like umm I just try things and people ask him for build orders and he is like what?

Well he probably conserved his mins and gas, and he did have 2 bases and ends up getting like 5 O.o

Demo, it's "Strelok". It's a transliteration of a russian word "rifleman" :)

So...many...ultralisks....

I guess this would be considered an old thread please dont post in old thread thx

and sorry if this isnt considered an old thread :P