Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
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Originally Posted by
Maul
For the record I read this topic from start to finish, picking those quotes up along the way. I can understand your frustration after doing your best to explain something (I thought you've made a lot of great points) only to face some ridiculous counter-argument, but nonetheless you still used ad hominem in the above examples and I think you're better than that.
Also the "Your English is lacking. You not understand." quote has been explained, but the way it was originally said wasn't helping anyone. In my opinion if you're trying to share your side of the argument with someone and they are clearly closed minded on the subject it's best to let them be.
I'm not attacking you or anyone else, but I feel obliged to point out how much non-sense is going on in this thread, and that was only a part of it.
Lets just wait and see than. You think me and Spychi are unreasonable, so be it, but the FACTS speak otherwise.
Everything I said is pure FACTS
FACTS: Blizzard announced themselves there would be pro version; blizzard announced there would be no LAN otherwise; Blizzard announced there won't be any features the community deemed dearly and highly!
Only recently they started calming down the ball, after the huge uproar made from me and Spychi and people like us, and not by people who were willing to ACCEPT ALL CRAP blizzard throw at them and who are still willing to accept every crap !
You may all buy the game at the minute its released, I don't care, but that does not change the facts and I won't buy it since I don't think its worth it and I'm going to continue making posts, threads, comments everywhere I can to pressure them more.
Example: If people didn't uproar about the art style SC2 was heading when they announced it, SC2 would now officially be graphically same as WC3.
After the uproar we all saw the comments made by artists "we are sorry, we were still in WOW mode, but now we will make SC2 more gritty and realistic"
So instead of defending them, even if the game had all the features in the world, we should still pressure Blizzard for more ~ albeit in a softer tone for even more features, because at the end of the day its good for us the consumers!
Again: Every aspect I said is a FACT taken directly out of Blizzard own statements, statements like "gameplay first", "best online experience", "we know what people want", "always connected experience", "we want to grow the competitive and e-sports scene", etc...
Everything they said themselves they lied, broke, didn't know, whatever the fact is they didn't deliver. They may or may not deliver, but even if they deliver 1 years after, its not here at launch and the fact that the facebook DEAL was higher on their priorities rather than chat and cross-server play speaks tons for Blizzard.
They were the most respected company in my book and the best company for me, but I can only respect them so much and as we all know everything changes and I've changed my attitude towards them and have every right to tell them and you that they aren't delivering on THEIR promises.
The game may be worth $60 for some in its current state, due to single player and the gameplay itself, but we all know bnet 0.2 sucks and you shouldn't defend what sucks, but push and pressure for better bnet, even if they said they'll fix some things, because at some point they are going to start to work for the expansion and charge $60 again for features that were supposed to be in the first game in the first place!
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I agree. SlickR is the worst offender. All I'm saying is that I'm not one of them.
How is that? In what way did I offend you? If some1 is the worst offender than its you, by your crazy capitalism and poor people statements, you basically insulted at least 1/3 of the whole globe population!
Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
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Originally Posted by
SlickR
Lets just wait and see than. You think me and Spychi are unreasonable, so be it, but the FACTS speak otherwise.
I'm sorry, you've quoted me but I'm not sure what part you're responding to here.
Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
@SlickR: This is just one small example out of numerous ones. I'm only counting the ones that pertain to me. I'm not even considering your other numerous insults to others.
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You are being mind controlled by carefully thought out phrases, comments and info all designed to wash your brain, to accept everything they say and suck your money no matter what they do.
This is why you're a terrible poster and must resort to ad hominem instead of an actual argument. You continually assert that we are unable to make our own decisions because we're a bunch of idiots that can't comprehend the complex business going on around us while only you can see what is happening to us. Despite the fact that we all have not only a better knowledge of what is actually being added or removed in Battle.net but also have a better understanding of the financial aspects of these decisions. You have yet to understand the points made days ago so how can you argue that you have superiority in understanding?
Also, for the last fucking time, I've said numerous times that I "favor the poor and motivated' over the "rich and lazy". This is the language barrier I'm talking about it and it's quite frustrating that you will not just accept that you cannot grasp the language usage in this topic and that's why there's so much misunderstanding.
This topic needs to be closed, methinks. it's not only frustrating the regular posters but also the moderators which are posting here. That is a bad sign.
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Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
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Originally Posted by
TychusFindlay
@SlickR: This is just one small example out of numerous ones. I'm only counting the ones that pertain to me. I'm not even considering your other numerous insults to others.
This is why you're a terrible poster and must resort to ad hominem instead of an actual argument. You continually assert that we are unable to make our own decisions because we're a bunch of idiots that can't comprehend the complex business going on around us while only you can see what is happening to us. Despite the fact that we all have not only a better knowledge of what is actually being added or removed in Battle.net but also have a better understanding of the financial aspects of these decisions. You have yet to understand the points made days ago so how can you argue that you have superiority in understanding?
Also, for the last fucking time, I've said numerous times that I "favor the poor and motivated' over the "rich and lazy". This is the language barrier I'm talking about it and it's quite frustrating that you will not just accept that you cannot grasp the language usage in this topic and that's why there's so much misunderstanding.
This topic needs to be closed, methinks. it's not only frustrating the regular posters but also the moderators which are posting here. That is a bad sign.
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There wasn't an insult word in my comments, its your imagination that you think what I'm saying is riddled and means idiots, morons or whatever.
I said what i said and I'm holding to it and it means what it means, there is no hidden language there and it was all to your response of me being ignorant, blind, unnecessary being and that some1 corrupted corporate titan who probably got on top by only screwing other people and corruption is better than me and rest of the world.
You sir should look at the mirror, before talking about some1 else, since I haven't mentioned anyone with name, haven't cursed or anything at anybody.
You were the one who started insulting people with your crazy writing about human being and how we are and you should be the one accepting blame and apologizing to all forum members!
Again I stand by what I said and what I said is not an insult to anyone, since all I said is based on facts and anyone can be misguided by what someone wants you to think and it does not mean that you are stupid or anything like that.
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I'm sorry, you've quoted me but I'm not sure what part you're responding to here.
Had to reply to something/someone, in this case your post was the closets, even though it wasn't directed towards my views.
Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
Saying that I'm brainwashed and lacking of the mental tools to comprehend what's going on while only you can is an undeniable insult. I'm afraid to read the rest for fear that this pointless cycle will be made a new. If there's something worth countering, someone else will pick up on it.
Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
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Originally Posted by
TychusFindlay
Saying that I'm brainwashed and lacking of the mental tools to comprehend what's going on while only you can is an undeniable insult. I'm afraid to read the rest for fear that this pointless cycle will be made a new. If there's something worth countering, someone else will pick up on it.
lets just drop it and move on and you were the one going for it in the first place with your crazy post about human beings, so I expect you to finish it also.
Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
Maul has a point, you guys are throwing way too much insults at each others. I hope you don't talk like that in real life.
On the other hand, Maul, you must understand that not every post is supposed to be top quality so that it could be published in a scientific journal. As much as I would like it to be the other way around in some situations, this is still only a forum.
In any case, this thread has become really bad. Closed.
Re: Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments
Maul - sorry, but quoting a bunch of people and ignoring their arguments anytime you see something marginally offensive is not a valid debate tactic. If you think my post needs more elaboration, then reread it; I fail to see how anyone can disagree with my position that if you think the game is worth enough to pay for at the store and not return then you are getting a fair deal. Or the fact that half the issues being argued about are being added in one form or another later anyway, so complaining about them won't make them come any faster. It seems like what many of you are sore about is that you're not getting something for free and that Blizzard isn't in a hurry to lose as much money as possible over this game just to accommodate you. Blizzard isn't a charity, but nobody is exactly getting screwed over either.
Also - what sandwich said.
