Battlecruiser, a useless unit.

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Originally Posted by Wankey

Hellion wass completely useless once you hit higher tier gameplay past initial worker harass.

With the new buff however, it's probably a lot better. They stealth tweaked a lot of Hellion stats including firing *distance, acceleration, responsiveness etc. The unit is a lot easier to use now and isn't so useless.

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Maybe for someone like you or I don't know, but saw many games where guys won just cause of Hellions. Hellions rapes everything that is light, and in every Army, there is some light units, so no, they are not useless at all. Even in late game they can serve to soak up the damage and do great damage to light units, like glass cannons.

Watched game where Terran had ~ 10 Marauders and 5 Hellions vs. ~10 Roaches and 10 Hydras, and in normal circumstances, Zerg would win, but Terran did great flank with Hellions and killed all 10 Hydras in 2-3 shots. I still can't see why do you think they are useless... Maybe you have problem microing them, don't know...

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Originally Posted by imdrunkontea

I do agree it's a rather arbitrary change - but I think of it the same way how WW2 battleships had big guns for land targets, and smaller machine guns for air targets. Of course, they could probably represent that in game better, but that's probably the reasoning behind it.

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No, they had big guns for big targets (land or sea regardless) and small guns for small targets. The equivalent for the BC would be having 1 set of guns for armoured units, and one for light units.

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Originally Posted by KadajSouba

There are 2 things that the battlecruiser got wrong. While the little lasers look cool, its just stupid that you need like 10 shots to kill a single unit. Lets not talk about units with a lot of HP. Also, why the hell they do less damage to air??? I mean they are the ultimate terran weapon, the highest tier unit, why giving to it a laughable air damage??? 6???? Come on, a small group of marines can deal the same or more damage, for a fraction of the cruisers price.

This is (or was) my favourite unit, so it hurts to watch the actual state of it. Blizzard needs to start working on the highest tier units (Cruiser, Carrier, Mothership, Ultras).

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Actually I'm more or less happy with it's attack. The 6 dmg vs air is a bit misleading. Remember it has an INSANE rate of fire. It's cooldown is even less than that of a stimmed marine if I'm not too much mistaken.

If there's anything I miss about it's old burst attack pattern it's the fact that no shots were wasted. If it's target was destroyed before it's 8 burst cycle was completed, it would distribute it's remaining shots on the next nearest target. I could sorta see how that might be a bit OP though....

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Originally Posted by RamiZ

Maybe for someone like you or I don't know, but saw many games where guys won just cause of Hellions. Hellions rapes everything that is light, and in every Army, there is some light units, so no, they are not useless at all. Even in late game they can serve to soak up the damage and do great damage to light units, like glass cannons.

Watched game where Terran had ~ 10 Marauders and 5 Hellions vs. ~10 Roaches and 10 Hydras, and in normal circumstances, Zerg would win, but Terran did great flank with Hellions and killed all 10 Hydras in 2-3 shots. I still can't see why do you think they are useless... Maybe you have problem microing them, don't know...

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You watched. How about you play and tell me.

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Originally Posted by Wankey

You watched. How about you play and tell me.

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Because he probably watched a supersmart octopus from another dimension playing the game, not another human being, so its different, right???? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by KadajSouba

Because he probably watched a supersmart octopus from another dimension playing the game, not another human being, so its different, right???? :rolleyes:

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I swear it wasn't me playing.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid

I swear it wasn't me playing.

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Ahhh Touché...

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Originally Posted by KadajSouba

Because he probably watched a supersmart octopus from another dimension playing the game, not another human being, so its different, right???? :rolleyes:

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Perhaps I shouldnt have opened that book, oh shit, the stars.

Yep, it's full of the things.

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Originally Posted by MattII

Yep, it's full of the things.

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I think I just lost SAN reading that...

Anyways... there was a topic here somewhere.