Anyone Else Not Liking The Current Rank Titles?

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Originally Posted by mr. peasant

Prelate and Praetor are titles previously used by the Protoss leaders (as is Steward but I didn't know where that fit in since Fenix was both, a Praetor and a Steward). Rather than using unfitting, unimpressive terms like 'Mentor' and 'Instructor', make use of them instead!

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I disagree. Those ranks might be the type held by only one or two people. Lets think of something else.

Also, I don't think steward is a rank. When they called Fenix the steward of the templar I think they were just referring to the fact that he basically runs their operations & stuff.

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Originally Posted by GRUNT

Mr Peasant - some of the Protoss suggestions you made sound good, except that a couple of the progressions don't sound necessarily 'better' than the last. Most noticeably, I would have put 'Guardian' below 'Master'.

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In my original idea, I had intended the Protoss to have 'Champion' instead of 'Guardian' but moved it over to the Zerg's top rank instead since I hadn't thought of Alpha. Reason I put Master below it is to create a Master-Apprentice aspect to Protoss training.

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Originally Posted by Gradius

I disagree. Those ranks might be the type held by only one or two people. Lets think of something else.

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They're vague enough, convey the right attributes and definitely sound Protoss-esque. Besides, we know there have been several Protoss who've held the Praetor rank (all of whom led small Protoss groups) at the same time; namely Fenix, Artanis, Mojo and Taldarin.

I have to agree to a certain extent with Kimera757. I know this is all a bunch of speculation, but when it comes right down to it I'd section off the ranks. For instance, normal Infantry (Marines, Reapers, Marauders) would go Private->Lance Corporal->Corporal->Sergeant->Staff Sergeant. Ghosts, being specialists, would go from Specialist->Targeter->Sniper->Assassin->Spectre. The mech/air forces would go from Lieutenant->Captain->Major->Colonel->General, excepting the Battlecruiser, who would go from Commander->Ship Captain->Rear Admiral->Vice Admiral->Fleet Admiral.

For Protoss, I don't know enough lore, but I would give the mechanical units different ranks, and the high templar different ranks, and the Dark Templar units (stalkers, DTs, Void Rays) ranks of their own, but I wouldn't know the first thing about them.

For Zerg, I love Grunt's suggestion of Minion -> Favored -> Hunter-Killer -> Devouring One -> Alpha, except I'd put Predator instead of Devouring One. Just because Blizzard saw fit to put Predator on a lowly creature doesn't meant the term should be used lightly. After all, it is the Predators of movie lore who kick serious butt, and the term itself refers to creatures that are more than capable of surviving on their own, so Predator would be a high rank in my book.

Who dares speak of my beloved Corps?

Edit: Jesus Christ 23000+ people on right now for the US only. It was only around 2000 at max when I first got in.

This reminds me that maybe on your final score after game you should get a title like in Warcraft 2.

I dont know, maybe the same titles as the kills:

Private - Whelp - Apprentice
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Commander - Cerebrate - Executor

And the always-nice title, Cheater (for the full game in single-player, maybe?)

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Originally Posted by Xyvik

I have to agree to a certain extent with Kimera757. I know this is all a bunch of speculation, but when it comes right down to it I'd section off the ranks. For instance, normal Infantry (Marines, Reapers, Marauders) would go Private->Lance Corporal->Corporal->Sergeant->Staff Sergeant. Ghosts, being specialists, would go from Specialist->Targeter->Sniper->Assassin->Spectre. The mech/air forces would go from Lieutenant->Captain->Major->Colonel->General, excepting the Battlecruiser, who would go from Commander->Ship Captain->Rear Admiral->Vice Admiral->Fleet Admiral.

For Protoss, I don't know enough lore, but I would give the mechanical units different ranks, and the high templar different ranks, and the Dark Templar units (stalkers, DTs, Void Rays) ranks of their own, but I wouldn't know the first thing about them.

For Zerg, I love Grunt's suggestion of Minion -> Favored -> Hunter-Killer -> Devouring One -> Alpha, except I'd put Predator instead of Devouring One. Just because Blizzard saw fit to put Predator on a lowly creature doesn't meant the term should be used lightly. After all, it is the Predators of movie lore who kick serious butt, and the term itself refers to creatures that are more than capable of surviving on their own, so Predator would be a high rank in my book.

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I think that needlessly complicates an otherwise simple, aesthetic feature. Perhaps instead of using actual military ranks, they should use less formal terms? For instance, perhaps:

Rookie -> Senior -> Veteran

As for what Kimera mentioned, it is indeed true that in current military practice, it is highly unlikely for an enlisted soldier to be promoted to officer without time off for additional training. But that's generally because we live in relatively peaceful times and we can afford to send people away for training. In times of heavy conflict (e.g. WWII), where the military is strapped for qualified and capable leaders, there is something known as battlefield commissions such as when Audie Murphy being promoted from Staff Sergeant to Second Lieutenant.

Also, as a note about his comment that the jumps aren't stepwise, they were merely a simplified form (e.g. 'Corporal' instead of having 'Lance Corporal' AND 'Corporal', 'Sergeant' instead of the many different tiers of sergeants, Lieutenant instead of Firsts and Seconds, etc). That said, I can agree about the apparent nonsense of Recruits in charge of Battlecruisers.

Hence, my alternate idea now of Rookie -> Senior -> Veteran.

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Originally Posted by mr. peasant

As part of the recent updates, Blizzard has introduced ranks for the the different races, depending on the number of kills said unit has. While this is purely a superficial feature and so low in priority, I think it should still be up for criticism anyway. Personally, I don't like many of the ranks given.

Starting with the Protoss, it feels weird that it's entirely possible for the Protoss to have multiple Executors on the same battlefield when previous representation of the title conveyed the feel that there was only one (or at least, very few of them) at a given time and s/he heads the entire Protoss fleet. Otherwise, what makes Selendis so notable a figure in Protoss society? For Terrans, while the term 'Commander' can be applied to those in charge of batallions, regiments, etc., it has too much of an attachment to Commander-In-Chief, which leads to the same problem as the Protoss' Executor. Lastly, there's the Zerg, which just sounds somewhat out of place for a swarm-like race. And what on Earth is a metamorph? Sounds like some kind of shapeshifter to me.

The following is my revised idea for the ranks:

Terrans:
0 - 4: Recruit
5 - 9: Corporal
10 - 14: Sergeant
15 - 19: Lieutenant
>20: Captain


Zerg:
0 - 4: Whelp
5 - 9: Predator
10 - 14: Warrior
15 - 19: Butcher
>20: Champion


Protoss:
0 - 4: Apprentice
5 - 9: Master
10 - 14: Guardian
15 - 19: Prelate
>20: Praetor

Prelate and Praetor are titles previously used by the Protoss leaders (as is Steward but I didn't know where that fit in since Fenix was both, a Praetor and a Steward). Rather than using unfitting, unimpressive terms like 'Mentor' and 'Instructor', make use of them instead!

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I'd add a different ranking system for robotic units, like the Colossi, Reavers, Probes, and so on.

0 - 4: Drudge
5 - 9: Legionnaire
10 - 14: Terminator
15 - 19: War Machine
>20: Annihilator


And for the original races:

Zerg:
0 - 4: Minion
5 - 9: Hunter-Killer
10 - 14: Champion
15 - 19: Predator
>20: Alpha Predator


Protoss:
0 - 4: Initiate
5 - 9: Disciple
10 - 14: Master
15 - 19: Prelate
>20: Praetor


Terrans:
0 - 4: Private
5 - 9: Corporal
10 - 14: Sergeant
15 - 19: Lieutenant
>20: Captain

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Originally Posted by mr. peasant

I think that needlessly complicates an otherwise simple, aesthetic feature.

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Welcome to the world of Xyvik, although I will counter with this: complication, yes. Needless? No. It would be dang cool to see my ghost make it to Assassin, let alone Spectre. It's only aesthetics, so it doesn't really matter how complicated it is as long as it doesn't take a ton of computing resources (which it wouldn't, a simple mathematical-calculation scheme that piggy-backs on the existing kill calculator.)

The Rookie-> Senior -> Veteran is too simple and follows CnC too closely.

Indeed, it feels very weird to have such high title, with so few kills.

I like Xyvik's suggestion. I don't see how anything could be too complicated for a simple aesthetic feature that doesn't affect gameplay in the slightest.