Re: Need some computer help!
This is the thread where you should go!
But taking a quick look at your specs your processor is probably holding you back (although not by a whole lot, really, that's a pretty good chip for the price) but for your graphics card you can simply disable your onboard nVidia card and get yourself a new ATi card that supports DX11 (not important for SC2 but important for future-proofing.)
Best choice for sub-$200 is the Radeon 5770. Over that and you can get the 5850, 5870, 5970(ouch!) but I tend to recommend the 5770...it's about $180 right now at newegg.
Here's a good one I've installed that works real well.
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Appreciate the help man. And yea I would def disable the onboard card or use it as a secondary but I dont think I would be able to use a 5770 because my computer doesnt support PCI Express 2.0 nor does it work with Windows 7 64 BIT(which I have) so I'm leaning towards a nVidia GT9800 but I'm not completely sure if it could handle SC2 on ultra. Know anything about it?
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aLDiN
Appreciate the help man. And yea I would def disable the onboard card or use it as a secondary but I dont think I would be able to use a 5770 because my computer doesnt support PCI Express 2.0 nor does it work with Windows 7 64 BIT(which I have) so I'm leaning towards a nVidia GT9800 but I'm not completely sure if it could handle SC2 on ultra. Know anything about it?
You can put a PCI express 2.0 graphics card on a PCI express X16 slot. If your comp is new, i am pretty sure you have a PCI express X16 slot.
9800 GT will run at high smoothly, but with ultra, it will have low frame rate during huge battles. Maybe not if u set on a low resolution.. You can definitely try tho.
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Rashed801
You can put a PCI express 2.0 graphics card on a PCI express X16 slot. If your comp is new, i am pretty sure you have a PCI express X16 slot.
9800 GT will run at high smoothly, but with ultra, it will have low frame rate during huge battles. Maybe not if u set on a low resolution.. You can definitely try tho.
Yea I just found out PCI 2.0 is backwards compatible lol, sorry for the ignorance. And yea I have PCI express x16 slot, just checked that 5 mins ago. And I'm totally fine if the 9800GT can run on all highs as long as it doesn't lag like it does now. Thanks for all the help! :)
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aLDiN
Yea I just found out PCI 2.0 is backwards compatible lol, sorry for the ignorance. And yea I have PCI express x16 slot, just checked that 5 mins ago. And I'm totally fine if the 9800GT can run on all highs as long as it doesn't lag like it does now. Thanks for all the help! :)
To be honest with you, i don't see a difference between Ultra and High on SC 2, that's just me tho.
Find 9800 GT on this frame rate graph for SC 2 Ultra settings
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...ormance,5.html
Average frame rate is 72, and lowest is 64, which is very very good (30 frame rate is normal, anything lower than 30 is laggy)
But they were using top of the line CPU / RAM etc, but still.
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Rashed801
To be honest with you, i don't see a difference between Ultra and High on SC 2, that's just me tho.
Find 9800 GT on this frame rate graph for SC 2 Ultra settings
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...ormance,5.html
Average frame rate is 72, and lowest is 64, which is very very good (30 frame rate is normal, anything lower than 30 is laggy)
But they were using top of the line CPU / RAM etc, but still.
Yea I've noticed there's really no difference between Ultra & High too & I'm perfectly fine with 72 frame rate, better than the 22 frame rate I have now lol
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Rashed801
To be honest with you, i don't see a difference between Ultra and High on SC 2, that's just me tho.
Find 9800 GT on this frame rate graph for SC 2 Ultra settings
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...ormance,5.html
Average frame rate is 72, and lowest is 64, which is very very good (30 frame rate is normal, anything lower than 30 is laggy)
But they were using top of the line CPU / RAM etc, but still.
this was like the most biased review I ever read... despite the fact that 4870 is alot better than the 9800GT, the fact that it outperforms the 4890 in this chart makes me wanna punch the reviewer in the nose
NO FUCKING WAY
that is completly not possible
4890 is 52% faster
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I must concur with spychi's assessment of that review...many of its numbers were not only suspect but did not exactly coincide with mine. I have only had limited hardware to test SC2 on, though, but still...
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Ok, I'm def. going to be upgrading my PSU as well and I've narrowed it down to this:
PSU:
http://www.frys.com/product/5872133?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
Video Card:
http://www.frys.com/product/5866243?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
can yall confirm this will work without my shit exploding? lol
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Is the graphic driver version up-to-date?
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And why are you getting an nVidia card? You're only shooting yourself in the foot with a card you're going to have to upgrade in less than six months. I mean, if you -REALLY- want an nVidia card I won't stop you, but...
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spychi
this was like the most biased review I ever read... despite the fact that 4870 is alot better than the 9800GT, the fact that it outperforms the 4890 in this chart makes me wanna punch the reviewer in the nose
NO FUCKING WAY
that is completly not possible
4890 is 52% faster
What do you think of the Radeon 5670 512 MB
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The 5670 is an excellent card in its price range (which is currently sub$90 to just over $100) but it won't win any awards for fastest performance. Its major selling point is that it IS a 5000 series card and therefore takes advantage of DX11 and all of the 5X series upgrades, including excellent heat and energy management.
If you don't plan on playing the game in Ultra all the time (I don't tend to recommend that even for those who have the cards to handle it) the 5670 will do just fine for SC2 needs, and it'll be forward-looking in DX11 compliance.
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Xyvik
The 5670 is an excellent card in its price range (which is currently sub$90 to just over $100) but it won't win any awards for fastest performance. Its major selling point is that it IS a 5000 series card and therefore takes advantage of DX11 and all of the 5X series upgrades, including excellent heat and energy management.
If you don't plan on playing the game in Ultra all the time (I don't tend to recommend that even for those who have the cards to handle it) the 5670 will do just fine for SC2 needs, and it'll be forward-looking in DX11 compliance.
Thanks! i ended up buying the Radeon HD 5670 last weekend, and played the game on HIGH settings, not Ultra.
During normal building etc i am getting 50-60 frame rate, but as soon as there is a major attack or a large army battle, my frame rate drops to 20-30ish, i really don't know why, could it be my CPU?, because legionhardware.com did say 5670 would run on Ultra settings and the lowest frame rate would be 42, but that's not the case for me.
here my specs:
# Operating system: Windows 7 32-bit.
# CPU type:AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200
# CPU Speed (GHz):2.22
# System memory (GB):3.249
# Graphics card model:ATI Radeon HD 5600 Series
# Graphics card driver:atiu9pag.dll
# Desktop resolution:1280x960
# Hard disk size (GB):232.876
# Hard disk free space (GB):84.231
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You're using a socket 939 processor... same as mine - your bus speed can't be higher then 333mhz. (basically, it's pretty old)
Adjusting physics, refelctions and effects in your graphics options should increase your frame rate.
Everything else, according to that legion review, *should* be fine on ultra (forgive my lack of ATI experience :P)
...on the bright side, your CPU overclocks reasonably well :)
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EvilGenius
You're using a socket 939 processor... same as mine - your bus speed can't be higher then 333mhz. (basically, it's pretty old)
Adjusting physics, refelctions and effects in your graphics options should increase your frame rate.
Everything else, according to that legion review, *should* be fine on ultra (forgive my lack of ATI experience :P)
...on the bright side, your CPU overclocks reasonably well :)
Sorry for being a newb, but does bus speed have to do with CPU?
What do you suggest? Should i get a new CPU? would it increase my frame rate during battles?
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unfortunately, buying a new CPU would also mean you'd need a new motherboard and new RAM - but yes, you'd probably see a large increase in performance.
or, you could overclock (would also increase your bus speed)
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EvilGenius
unfortunately, buying a new CPU would also mean you'd need a new motherboard and new RAM - but yes, you'd probably see a large increase in performance.
or, you could overclock (would also increase your bus speed)
I have never done overclocking... is it easy?
And will CPU overclocking improve my frame rate during battles?
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I tend to agree with EvilGenius that the bottleneck seems to be your processor. Overclocking your CPU can be as easy as downloading an overclocking program and all the way up to changing your BIOS settings.
To be perfectly honest I don't tend to recommend overclocking to those unfamiliar with it. First off you need to know what your motherboard is capable of, and second you need to make sure your system stays cool and stable. Small amounts of overclocking don't tend to tax your system too much, but small amounts of overclocking don't usually tend to show results either.
Depending on your budget you can get yourself a new Phenom II X2 550 rig for less than $400 (less than $300 actually, since you already have the 5670, depending on current prices) and it should do much better in battles.
If you want to overclock instead there are quite a few places around that will show you how to do it. This guide might prove useful.
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